it is none of richard gordon’s business on how i vote

i  find grave offence on richard gordon’s damage suit against SWS and Pulse Asia. one of gordon’s lawyers said gordon wants me to cast my vote using the “track record and platform” of candidates. while that is a good idea, it is not his freakin business on what i use as basis for the vote i will cast.

he has no say on what criteria i use and it is totally up to me.  this is a free country and part of what democracy is all about, in fact  elections per se is that i exercise my vote in whatever manner i please.

“We want the public not to base their votes on the candidates’ winnability, but on their track records and platform,” Tagalda said.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20100422-265780/Gordon-files-damage-suit-vs-2-survey-firms

what is to richard gordon a “credible and correct survey results”? is it one where he is leading in the poll or where he is not getting a 2% rating? gordon is lodging this suit for one and only one reason – he is failing in this election campaign as seen by the survey results.

surveys are a measure of voters sentiments and in this case the voters are speaking plainly – the voters are rejecting gordon where he is getting very low ratings across the board, across all demographics, socio-eco classes and geographies.

it is hypocritical for gordon to speak of “public interest” when in this case, it is obvious public interest has no bearing on it but only his personal interest. he is on this route because he wants to defend his personal interest. he thinks survey results is killing his campaign when in truth he is just denying the fact that it is himself who is killing his chances in this election.

“While it is true that surveys are part of our freedom of expression, such freedom is not without limits especially where, as in this case, public interest during election periods warrants that these survey companies at least publish credible and correct survey results,” Diaz said.

this first paragraph at the PDI story on his suit says it all – he is suing the companies because he is doing poorly in the polls. if the results were different, we will probably not hear any complaint from him and he will probably make a big deal of it.

being a senator himself, he should know the value and power of public opinion. he is perhaps shocked by the current results where in this one, public opinion is going against him.

what does gordon want to do? force everyone to think like him? deny the voters a variety of information and data?  take out variety and force everyone to think the same?

gordon also has an inflated ego – if everyone used “track record and accomplishments” as basis for this election, he probably thinks he will get elected. if that is the criteria used, gordon will NOT be the first choice, it will probably be manny villar or erap estrada.

we think it is too presumptuous of him to say others are not using stringent criteria in their selection. how can he say such things?  it has not occurred to him that voters are probably using very stringent criteria, some may even be “track record and performance” but voters are seeing him as failing in those.

perhaps gordon has a severe case of superiority complex where he thinks everyone who does not agree with him are inferior to him. he thinks there is something wrong in others just because he is not a front runner at the surveys.

Presidential candidate and Senator Richard Gordon has filed a P650,000 damage suit against two survey firms for their allegedly false and misleading survey results which have not shown Gordon as among the top contenders.

gordon’s logic is fatally flawed. he says surveys are flawed and yet he uses the survey results. his poor showing in particular for saying it is making him lose the election. if the surveys are flawed, then he should question the methodology and design of the surveys, have them changed and conduct the surveys again to get good results. there is no need for him to stop the publication of the results to the people, just have the methodology and design corrected to his specifications. he can even get a research agency to conduct the poll using his ideas.

gordon needs help. and he does not deserve our vote.

  1. April 22, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    tama lang yan para patas ang eleksyon. this survey companies has no right to manipulate and mislead people like yourself. hindi mo ba nakikita, ninanakawan kana ng iyong pag-iisip katulad ng patuloy na paglilinlang nila sa mga taong mahihirap. Mangahas and Holmes is ought to pay more as far as i concern like 10 million pesos. pag walang survey i’m sure natuloy na ang debate. hindi naduwag si Noynoy at Villar at ang trapo nya.

    • O_O
      April 22, 2010 at 11:12 pm

      Moreover, when they preach about the surveys, and make people vote based on it, someone has to stand up and call BS on it.

      It’s OUR business when your vote and when the website tells you HOW to vote (subtly or otherwise) based on survey results. Not to mention that the presidency affects all of our lives for 6 years with no warranties, returns or exchanges.

      • fesh
        May 12, 2010 at 8:16 pm

        fuck you ngayon ka mag comment!

  2. O_O
    April 22, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    It is when there are potential violations being committed. Or are you too blinded?

  3. April 23, 2010 at 10:19 am

    Kung sa isang marathon nasa dulo ka, huwag mung sisihin ang mga announcers pag sinabi nilang nauuna si runner na ito at pumapangalawa si ganito. Gordon is like that runner who, instead of concentrating on how he will gain on those ahead of him and winning the race himself, is castigating the play by play account of those in the booth and altogether wants to stop and, worst, sue them. There are other twists to this analogy, tho, but that’s as close as one can get to understand his move.

    • zendikar
      May 6, 2010 at 10:11 pm

      mali naman kasi ang analogy mo… sa isang marathon hindi directly naaapektuhan ang mga runner…
      in this case the surveys are trying to manipulate the voters mentality and are actualy manipulating many people already…

      nakakainis na kasi pakinggan ung mga taong pag tinanong mo kung bakit si ganito ang iboboto mo eh ang sagot nila “Kay Gibo/Gordon/Perlas/JC/bro eddie sana ako eh kaso hindi na sila mananalo kea kay Villar/Ninoy/Erap na lng…”

      malaking ibedensya ito na nagtatagumpay ang mga survey sa pagmamanipulate ng pagiisp ng mga tao…

  4. Tony
    April 23, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    Antenna1,

    “I find grave offence on richard gordon’s damage suit against SWS and Pulse Asia. one of gordon’s lawayers said gordon wants me to cast my vote using the :track record and platform” of candidates. while that is a good idea, it is not his freagin business on what i use as basis for the vote i will cast. he has no say on what criteria i use and it is totally up to me. this is a free country and part of what democracy is all about, in fact elections per se is that i sercise my vote in whatever manner i please.”

    Are you out of your freaking mind? So what kind of criteria do you use? Popularity? This just tells me what kind of Filipino citizen are you? Frankly, I really don’t care. Let me put is this way, let say all of these candidates are applying for a job and the Filipino people is the employer. In a huge Corporation (Philippines), to help you get the job it is a mandatory requirement to list every job experience and qualification that requires you to perform a job or else why would the corporation hire you if you are deem incompetent to perform such duty? esp. if you don’t even meet there qualification. As an employer (Filipino people) they will have to scrutinize and examine very closely who deserves to get the job. RESUME will be compared on who is more highly qualified for the delicate position meaning the Presidency.

    I don’t think Noynoy is the guy. He is just being by his KAMAG-ANAK INC.
    Only Senator Gordon deserve the job. Quite frankly, we will bypass other countries in Asia if he is elected president. More importantly….TITINO ANG ATING GOBYERNO! For our countries sake and your sake make a difference.

  5. antenna1
    April 23, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Tony :Antenna1,
    “I find grave offence on richard gordon’s damage suit against SWS and Pulse Asia. one of gordon’s lawayers said gordon wants me to cast my vote using the :track record and platform” of candidates. while that is a good idea, it is not his freagin business on what i use as basis for the vote i will cast. he has no say on what criteria i use and it is totally up to me. this is a free country and part of what democracy is all about, in fact elections per se is that i sercise my vote in whatever manner i please.”
    Are you out of your freaking mind? So what kind of criteria do you use? Popularity? This just tells me what kind of Filipino citizen are you? Frankly, I really don’t care. Let me put is this way, let say all of these candidates are applying for a job and the Filipino people is the employer. In a huge Corporation (Philippines), to help you get the job it is a mandatory requirement to list every job experience and qualification that requires you to perform a job or else why would the corporation hire you if you are deem incompetent to perform such duty? esp. if you don’t even meet there qualification. As an employer (Filipino people) they will have to scrutinize and examine very closely who deserves to get the job. RESUME will be compared on who is more highly qualified for the delicate position meaning the Presidency.
    I don’t think Noynoy is the guy. He is just being by his KAMAG-ANAK INC.Only Senator Gordon deserve the job. Quite frankly, we will bypass other countries in Asia if he is elected president. More importantly….TITINO ANG ATING GOBYERNO! For our countries sake and your sake make a difference.

    what i use as criteria for selecting the presidentiable i will vote is also non of your business.

    different people use different criteria. in the end, people will vote for the candidate that they they think is most worthy to be president. how one defines “worthy” is personal choice that every voter makes.

    godon cannot and should not and neither should you dictate on others.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 12:01 am

      Even when you are clearly on the wrong? Even when who you vote is a sleeping and lazy mule?

      When it comes to competence, your choice is absurd, and you clearly use surveys to cover this up. This is a free country, and I have as much say as you do, only you’re on the wrong end of the alley.

      • April 25, 2010 at 8:28 pm

        You are being just like your candidate: Masyadong believe sa sarili. Calling others names is nOt a character for one in such a LOFTY EXISTENCE.

        Mangampanya ka na lang ng manalo ang candidate mo.

        • O_O
          May 6, 2010 at 12:21 pm

          You got told because you aren’t using your intellect well. Nakikita mong mali, pinagtatanggol mo pa.

          Nakikita mong Pulse Asia and SWS may kinikilingan, pinagtatanggol mo pa.

          I believe in myself because in this situation, ako ang nasa katwiran.

          • May 6, 2010 at 2:09 pm

            Even ang kapanalig mung si mrbalcos sinasaway mu. Na one tract mind ka na ata sa kakadefend mukay Gordon.
            Analyze his statement, you are on the same side.

            • O_O
              May 6, 2010 at 7:31 pm

              If he’s truly one of us, he’ll know what kind of passion I have. He won’t take it against me if he knows why.

              You have nothing else to say as you have been crushed, that you faultfind even the most trivial of things. Sad.

              • May 7, 2010 at 8:13 am

                yeah! I do appreciate your passion. Its just that it now borders on fanaticism. Scary!!!

          • fesh
            May 12, 2010 at 8:17 pm

            fuck you wala akong pakialam kung off topic! talo si gordon! uto uto ka!

  6. antenna1
    April 23, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    O_O :It is when there are potential violations being committed. Or are you too blinded?

    what violations are being committed? is anyone forcing others to read survey results? is anyone frocing others to be influenced by survey results?

    • O_O
      April 23, 2010 at 11:56 pm

      Had a read on your OWN website lately?

  7. antenna1
    April 23, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    timpaul :Kung sa isang marathon nasa dulo ka, huwag mung sisihin ang mga announcers pag sinabi nilang nauuna si runner na ito at pumapangalawa si ganito. Gordon is like that runner who, instead of concentrating on how he will gain on those ahead of him and winning the race himself, is castigating the play by play account of those in the booth and altogether wants to stop and, worst, sue them. There are other twists to this analogy, tho, but that’s as close as one can get to understand his move.

    i agree. very well said.

    • O_O
      April 23, 2010 at 11:58 pm

      The problem is, the announcer is giving you falsifications.

      • April 24, 2010 at 12:19 am

        C’mon, you mean SWS, Pulse Asia, TNS, the Manila Standard Survey,
        which was not commissioned by any candidate, The 7-11 survey of random customers, (even my own personal RANDOM survey) conspired to make Noynoy the leader in this election? IS NOYNOY THAT POWERFUL? Give them a little credit naman. The 1st two wouldn’t survive this long in their field if they are not credible. May mga international awards pa nga e.
        My advice, put your efforts to good use by concentrating on adding more voters to your candidate instead of lambasting the surveys.

        • O_O
          April 24, 2010 at 1:51 pm

          That is already being done, and converts are coming by the droves. Still, it is not enough. The deception must be culled.

        • April 27, 2010 at 11:48 am

          WOw… don’t be so Naive… Surveys being influential and critical to Political Campaign will never be honest. whether you like it or not.

          • O_O
            May 6, 2010 at 12:22 pm

            Naive? I’m not like you who complains and do nothing!

            • May 6, 2010 at 2:13 pm

              Even ang kapanalig mung si mrbalcos sinasaway mu. Na one tract mind ka na ata sa kakadefend mukay Gordon.
              Analyze his statement, you are on the same side.
              He was calling me naive, not you. tsk,tsk,tsk…
              mrbalcos, do nothing ka daw o!

      • antenna1
        April 25, 2010 at 5:39 pm

        rhey are not falsifications, they are just different from yours. you are too full of yourself for thinking anyone who has a different view than yours is wrong.

        • April 27, 2010 at 11:49 am

          WOw… don’t be so Naive… Surveys being influential and critical to Political Campaign will never be honest. whether you like it or not.

        • O_O
          May 6, 2010 at 12:25 pm

          You couldn’t even comment on the documentations shwoing SWS and Pulse Asia have controls directly attributed to Kamag-anak incorporated!

          • May 7, 2010 at 8:47 am

            Is Binay’s rise also rigged by Noynoy and kamag anak Inc? What will Noynoy gain if Binay win’s the VP?

  8. antenna1
    April 23, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Tony :.
    Only Senator Gordon deserve the job. Quite frankly, we will bypass other countries in Asia if he is elected president. More importantly….TITINO ANG ATING GOBYERNO! For our countries sake and your sake make a difference.

    anyone who goes on a tantrum the way gordon is doing it does not deserve to become the president of this country.

    • O_O
      April 23, 2010 at 11:57 pm

      And anyone who makes cheap shots just to cover their incompetence like with the surveys moreso does not deserve the presidency.

    • April 27, 2010 at 11:54 am

      Noynoy who has personality disorder.. Villar who was proven a liar.. Erap who was convicted of plunder.. Gordon whom you say has tantrums…

      among these four, I’d rather have tantrums to deal with.

      Each and every candidates has their flaws. TAO lang din sila mga kapatid. We should focus more on what they can do as a leader. Look at the capability of the individual as a leader and not on their weaknesses and flaws.

      You guys should know better.

  9. April 24, 2010 at 12:26 am

    “And anyone… more so does not deserve the presidency.”
    At least inamin mo rin your bet doesn’t deserve the presidency. “More so” lang nga yung isa sa iyong tingin.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 1:53 pm

      Nice try twisting, but that only made you look desperate for a rebuttal. Gordon deserves the presidency, full stop.

  10. felibustero2000
    April 24, 2010 at 2:49 am

    surveys are good to see if made scientifically and non bias to feel the trend. it will only express percentage probability if election is done in the same day. but the fall side of survey moreoften dictate the mood of most if not all the voters and even non voters wich give due advantage to those who are above the survey. and in effect people tend to vote in for the reason of that the presidentiable will win base on survey but not the qualification, integrity, capability and the one you belive could change the country. hence we always regret it as a country. one advice vote on who you have trust and belive can lead the country together with the Filipino people not for the reason they are leading in survey.guard your vote comes election day until proclamation…

  11. antenna1
    April 24, 2010 at 7:22 am

    O_O :
    The problem is, the announcer is giving you falsifications.

    “falsification” because you candidate is not at the top of the results?

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 2:02 pm

      Surveys are falsifications, full stop. Even if Gordon leads, I still won’t trust it. Just look at how Noynoy bashes other survey companies that don’t show him as leading.

  12. antenna1
    April 24, 2010 at 7:25 am

    O_O :
    Had a read on your OWN website lately?

    again, you and everyone else has the freedom to believe or not believe survey results. you have the same freedom not to be influenced or not influenced by them.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 7:38 pm

      You on the other hand, influence people that these are the way to go, and that those who do not follow surveys will end up as losers.

      It’s too obvious in the messages, the implications and in the articles. You can deny all you can, but the assertion is cleverly hidden.

  13. antenna1
    April 24, 2010 at 7:38 am

    O_O :
    Even when you are clearly on the wrong? Even when who you vote is a sleeping and lazy mule?
    When it comes to competence, your choice is absurd, and you clearly use surveys to cover this up. This is a free country, and I have as much say as you do, only you’re on the wrong end of the alley.

    who are you to judge my choice as wrong? who gave you the right to be the judge? it is my choice, you have no business meddling with it nor judging it. exactly the same way as others will need to leave you with your choice.

    this is about respect of others. the same thing you want others to give you. this is about democracy where everyone is entitled to his own opinion.

    history will judge you – the candidate you chose to support will lose this election in a very bad and humiliating way – down at the bottom. that is the issue here, you are just whining, like godron because he is at the bottom of the polls.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 1:58 pm

      Hypocrite detected. History may judge me but the outcome will be very different. Fate may be set in stone, but we have the pickaxe and the tools to smash it. Execution and actuality > Verdict.

      Acta, non verba.

      As always, you base your winnability on surveys, those that masks the incompetence of the candidates. Who needs polls to determine winnability when you have your own brains to decide based on what they have done?

      See what I told you about in regards to pushing surveys as the things that matter? You are subconsciously doing it.

  14. HUNGKAG
    April 24, 2010 at 10:52 am

    I symphatize with Dick Gordon but there is no reason for him to oppose and disallow surveys. What he or his staff should do is to charge the survey groups for being unscientific. First he should ask the survey companies for the process and methodology they used. Second he should refer this to a panel of experts for review. There are many experts in Statistics department of reputable universities. If his experts show that he is right then his law suit may hove some basis.
    For me i understand the survey process but what i find difficult to understand is the Random Sampling. This step in many marketing and electoral surveys select in random the survey participants from the list of registered voters in practice 1200 with 95 % accuracy and + or – 2% per cent margin of error. The lower the no. of participants the greater the margin of error but the lower the cost and conversely the higher no. of participants the lower margin of error and the more expensive.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 2:00 pm

      In conclusion, surveys were improperly done and has a high risk of error.
      And yet people think this is the end-all statement and verdict.

      Now you can see why Gordon is complaining.

      • morales
        April 24, 2010 at 4:48 pm

        how are they improperly done?

        • O_O
          April 24, 2010 at 5:59 pm

          Were you reading the whole article or were you just skimming through?

      • April 24, 2010 at 10:43 pm

        how are they improperly done?

        • O_O
          April 24, 2010 at 11:03 pm

          Let’s see. Inappropriate shortlisting, lack of transparency, lack of credibility, questionable methods of information gathering, being on subscription basis and worst of all, being publicized, when they were originally intended as an internal guide for candidates.

          There could be more that I know not of.

          • April 24, 2010 at 11:31 pm

            the public has a right to know how their candidates are doing, knowing that is a fundamental human need in any given election. we do that on our own – we tend to ask our friends and families who their preference are. it’s essentially the same thingm it’s just that polling companies do it in bigger numbers and apply science to it.

            what are the “questionable methods of information gathering”? exactly what are these. be specific please. what is “inappropriaye shortlisting”? what is your source of these information?

            “lack of transparency” – you can email both SWS and Pulse Asia to ask for these, a few times, i had emailed them to ask about their design and each time they had replied to me promptly. i am sure they will respond to you in the same way.

            • O_O
              April 25, 2010 at 12:12 am

              Let’s see. Have you heard of the case where a Gibo supporter was sampled, and when he answered Gibo, it was not accepted? I would’ve dismissed that if not for the fact similar claims increased.

              Such vital surveys should have ways to show that they’re not making up the results.

              Referring me to them, I do not have much faith in what their answers would be, it could be all padded and canned replies. Cynical, yes, but for valid doubts.

              And most importantly, a disclaimer to prevent mind-conditioning is needed, as it is unfair for legitimate achievers. I have not seen them at all.

              • April 25, 2010 at 9:55 am

                where did you get that? from the internet? spam email? email chains? and you believed them?

                • O_O
                  April 27, 2010 at 12:45 am

                  Those two companies hasn’t shown any interest in showing their methodologies and making themselves transparent. There’s no point.

                  And now there’s certain connections of relatives of Noynoy connected to the two survey companies…

                  I can produce names if you like.

            • April 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm

              Here goes wawam again with his expertise on surveys.. where he previously said that it would be a miracle if Noynoy even hit 20% consistently.. haiz…

              • April 27, 2010 at 12:25 pm

                where did you get that?

  15. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    O_O :
    Surveys are falsifications, full stop. Even if Gordon leads, I still won’t trust it. Just look at how Noynoy bashes other survey companies that don’t show him as leading.

    let me guess, the candidate you are supporting is not doing well in the polls, right?

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 6:02 pm

      Far worse than that. The surveys are masking incompetence in candidates, and many reports of such things done improperly.

      • April 24, 2010 at 10:45 pm

        surveys shows the incompetence of the candidates. the “incompetent” ones are those at the bottom of the results. that is how the voters are judging them, the lowet the ranking in the results, the greater the “incompetence”.

        • O_O
          April 24, 2010 at 11:01 pm

          The real incompetence is on their resume and track record, not on people’s perception. Thanks to these falsifications, people concede to the “competents” without knowing they have better choices.

          • April 24, 2010 at 11:33 pm

            blame the candidates for these. gordon in particular aired lousy tv ads. it is not the fault of voters that they have a bad impression of gorodn, it is the fault of his tv ads and i suppose a lot of it also his performance in public forums. many voters find gordon an ass hole, antipaticko and mayabang. that by the way is based on research.

            • O_O
              April 24, 2010 at 11:58 pm

              You must be talking to seriously uninformed people, which doesn’t represent the Filipino people.

              The country doesn’t need a pious, tact and humble president that couldn’t harm a fly even if it needs to be done, or make the heart to make hard decisions in the fear of pissing off people.

              The fear of pissing off people is what has been the problem from the start, and we need one who isn’t afraid of doing so just to get the job done.

              Forking out tons of money just to erase this “stigma” doesn’t lead to the desired results immediately. And, the presidency is not all about who can market and peddle themselves like a packaged grocery item.

              Let’s not also forget subjective media with vested interests doing subtle smearing as the cause of the bad impression.

  16. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    it’s really very sad to see how much gordon’s status and reputation has gone done to this gutter level. he was my other option, i was considering him. but because of the things he has been doing lately, i had dropped him from consideration. gordon seems unstable to me now.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 6:00 pm

      That’s sad, because you’re not seeing the whole picture. He’s complaining of things that are obviously wrong. Using surveys to cover up incompetence is wrong in so many levels.

  17. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    O_O :
    Far worse than that. The surveys are masking incompetence in candidates, and many reports of such things done improperly.

    survey results reflect the sentiments of the voters. those who lead in surveys are being given by the voters their trust. they are saying the leaders in the surveys are the best among all to be president, that they they see in them the best among the candidates, that they can perform best than others.

    losers will always question survey results not because they are not valid or that something is wrong with them, only because they have lost the election or are losing in the campaign.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 10:33 pm

      And it goes back to the original question: Are surveys even reliable with only 2000 people of 40-50 million? Don’t give me the science hulabaloohoo.

      • April 24, 2010 at 10:45 pm

        yes they are. that is being taught in Stat 101 in college.

        • O_O
          April 24, 2010 at 10:59 pm

          In application, they’re all assumptions until you see the real deal. Especially in the elections.

          • April 24, 2010 at 11:34 pm

            we’re not talking of elections, we are talking of surveys.

            • O_O
              April 24, 2010 at 11:50 pm

              Same thing, you are assuming the survey results translate to poll results, when it can differ beyond the margin of error, assuming (with me seriously doubting) it was done in good faith.

  18. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    O_O :
    That is already being done, and converts are coming by the droves. Still, it is not enough. The deception must be culled.

    that is the fault of the losing candidates. the fact is as there are winners, there will be losers. candidates lose because they are not being preferred by the voters.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 10:34 pm

      When you assume survey results translate to votes, you are getting ahead of yourself.

  19. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    O_O :
    Were you reading the whole article or were you just skimming through?

    you have given nothing but generalizations and sweeping accusations. all you have been giving are generalizations unsupported by facts or details, not even arguments or anything logical or sensible.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 10:35 pm

      The same can be said to you.

      • April 24, 2010 at 11:38 pm

        you are making the accusations, the burden of proof is yours.

        i have the same problems with your comments on this topic – they are all sweeping and generalations without any details or explanation.

        • O_O
          April 24, 2010 at 11:49 pm

          In regards to survey credibility? It doesn’t take rocket science to see it. Their lack of transparency when they report surveys is one of them.

          Besides, when I was the one asking for proof (and antenna knows of this!) he couldn’t do so either!

          So when one does not produce proof and make sweeping arguments, there is no incentive for the other to do that as well.

  20. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    O_O :
    Nice try twisting, but that only made you look desperate for a rebuttal. Gordon deserves the presidency, full stop.

    gordon deserves nothing. perhaps a spanking for his temper tanrtums.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 10:36 pm

      Noynoy and Villar deserves a nice big GTFO of the elections. The same to you, defender of the election’s biggest swindling scheme to sway voters based on incompetence.

      • fesh
        May 12, 2010 at 8:26 pm

        bakit di k na nagrereply nagpakamatay ka na ba?

  21. morales
    April 24, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    O_O :
    That’s sad, because you’re not seeing the whole picture. He’s complaining of things that are obviously wrong. Using surveys to cover up incompetence is wrong in so many levels.

    obviously wrong from his personal point of view. it is wrong to his eyes because he is at the bottom of the survey results. that is not “wrong”, that is whining and being a sore loser.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm

      You don’t find credence that Noynoy does not deserve the presidency for not being able to be competent, or Villar who chickens out upon scrutiny?

      You’re using Gordon’s tantrums as an excuse. That’s all you got.

  22. April 24, 2010 at 11:36 pm

    O_O :

    When you assume survey results translate to votes, you are getting ahead of yourself.

    surveys is the closest thing you can get to an actual election result. that is precisely why surveys are conducted – to get a reading of sentiments getting as close as possible to an actual election.

    • O_O
      April 24, 2010 at 11:44 pm

      Assuming it is so, it is misused, oversensationalized, and does not have disclaimers against undue influences it may cause.

      Even if Gordon leads the surveys, nothing will change my stance towards it.

  23. April 25, 2010 at 9:57 am

    O_O :

    You must be talking to seriously uninformed people, which doesn’t represent the Filipino people.

    The country doesn’t need a pious, tact and humble president that couldn’t harm a fly even if it needs to be done, or make the heart to make hard decisions in the fear of pissing off people.

    The fear of pissing off people is what has been the problem from the start, and we need one who isn’t afraid of doing so just to get the job done.

    Forking out tons of money just to erase this “stigma” doesn’t lead to the desired results immediately. And, the presidency is not all about who can market and peddle themselves like a packaged grocery item.

    Let’s not also forget subjective media with vested interests doing subtle smearing as the cause of the bad impression.

    you are whining this way because gordon is not winning the election. instead of whining, you should campaign for gordon. stop doing the same thing gordon is doing – whining about surveys and not doing enough to campaign for himself.

    • O_O
      April 26, 2010 at 9:02 pm

      I am doing both. Got plenty of converts, and I’m not stopping.

  24. antenna1
    April 25, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    O_O :Even when you are clearly on the wrong? Even when who you vote is a sleeping and lazy mule?
    When it comes to competence, your choice is absurd, and you clearly use surveys to cover this up. This is a free country, and I have as much say as you do, only you’re on the wrong end of the alley.

    my decision is mine and mine alone. who are you to judge my decision to be wrong? you do not have the right to judge me or anybody to be wrong in their decision. this is an election, eachone has the right to make his/her own decision.

    • O_O
      April 26, 2010 at 9:02 pm

      Not if you’re using your influence to coerce them to follow your way under the labeling of loser.

  25. antenna1
    April 25, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    O_O :You on the other hand, influence people that these are the way to go, and that those who do not follow surveys will end up as losers.
    It’s too obvious in the messages, the implications and in the articles. You can deny all you can, but the assertion is cleverly hidden.

    i post my beliegs and my thoughts, it is up to the reader to agree or not with them, also up to the readers to be influenced or not.

    • O_O
      April 26, 2010 at 8:59 pm

      Baloney. With what you’ve doing in PEx, how do you expect me to believe you?

  26. antenna1
    April 25, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    why is it that candidates like gordon together with their supporters who are lsoing in the polls always complain and disparage surveys? it is not the fault of surveys that their campaigns are failing, it it them who are failing and their campaigns.

    • O_O
      April 26, 2010 at 9:01 pm

      Yes it is. 2k people realistically cannot represent the people. it’s their opinions with fancy scientific explanations to make it look trustworthy.

      Plus, when you ignore their track record, like what it is being done here, and base on popularity, you are giving the people the wrong message.

  27. Mel
    April 25, 2010 at 9:25 pm

    I was in school 2 weeks ago and there is a surveyor in which he claimed to be from Pulse Asia. He asked “who do you think will win the election?” choices Villar or Aquino? We asked, what about the other candidates? “hindi naman sila mananalo, kulang funds nila”. What he meant, hindi sila nababayan pa or kulang ang binayad ng kandidato sa kanila for this month. Anong klaseng survey ito, survey na may lutong makaw. This is a typical questioning that this people do. Advertising companies and the media who kisses the ass and butts of survey companies should be deem incompetent. let me just remind you, because of extreme corruption of this country and many survey companies treated it as big business, it is extremely hard to trust Filipinos nowadays espcially when it comes to surveys. The only tool what voters can use is to look at the candidate’s own resume…meaning what have you’ve done to warrant you to become my president? It just plain stupidity if Noynoy would show his resume to big corporation that shows his imcompetency. Lito Lapid was able to passed a bill, but Noynoy according to his interview with GMA “Kandidato” he said “Remember itinulak lang ako para sa presidente”…what a stupid statement. That tells me that his “TRAPOS” BEHIND THE SCENE ARE THE ONE RUNNING HIS PLATFORM.

  28. April 26, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Mel :

    I was in school 2 weeks ago and there is a surveyor in which he claimed to be from Pulse Asia. He asked “who do you think will win the election?” choices Villar or Aquino? We asked, what about the other candidates? “hindi naman sila mananalo, kulang funds nila”. What he meant, hindi sila nababayan pa or kulang ang binayad ng kandidato sa kanila for this month. Anong klaseng survey ito, survey na may lutong makaw. This is a typical questioning that this people do. Advertising companies and the media who kisses the ass and butts of survey companies should be deem incompetent. let me just remind you, because of extreme corruption of this country and many survey companies treated it as big business, it is extremely hard to trust Filipinos nowadays espcially when it comes to surveys. The only tool what voters can use is to look at the candidate’s own resume…meaning what have you’ve done to warrant you to become my president? It just plain stupidity if Noynoy would show his resume to big corporation that shows his imcompetency. Lito Lapid was able to passed a bill, but Noynoy according to his interview with GMA “Kandidato” he said “Remember itinulak lang ako para sa presidente”…what a stupid statement. That tells me that his “TRAPOS” BEHIND THE SCENE ARE THE ONE RUNNING HIS PLATFORM.

    your anecdote is something that is being circulated in the internet via email. don’t believe all the stories you get in your in-box specially those in a chain format.

    field workers of research agencies do not operate that way. they have IDs, they introduce themselves properly and they first ask qualifying questions plus other things that your anecdote did not show. the anecdote is bogus.

    • O_O
      April 27, 2010 at 3:47 am

      Too easy to say.

  29. April 27, 2010 at 12:23 pm

    morales :

    it’s really very sad to see how much gordon’s status and reputation has gone done to this gutter level. he was my other option, i was considering him. but because of the things he has been doing lately, i had dropped him from consideration. gordon seems unstable to me now.

    gordon has gone desperate for votes. he thinks doing this will get him votes and respectability. he does not get neither.

    • O_O
      April 27, 2010 at 12:40 pm

      That’s not what recent developments are telling me. It’s the exact opposite!

  30. April 27, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    O_O :

    Yes it is. 2k people realistically cannot represent the people. it’s their opinions with fancy scientific explanations to make it look trustworthy.

    Plus, when you ignore their track record, like what it is being done here, and base on popularity, you are giving the people the wrong message.

    2T sample size is a globally acceptable size for polls.

    • O_O
      April 27, 2010 at 12:40 pm

      You don’t get it do you? Samples, scientific explanations, they’re just opinions of 2000 people!

  31. April 27, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    mrbalcos :

    Noynoy who has personality disorder.. Villar who was proven a liar.. Erap who was convicted of plunder.. Gordon whom you say has tantrums…

    among these four, I’d rather have tantrums to deal with.

    Each and every candidates has their flaws. TAO lang din sila mga kapatid. We should focus more on what they can do as a leader. Look at the capability of the individual as a leader and not on their weaknesses and flaws.

    You guys should know better.

    what personality disorder does aquino have? the psyche report on aquino has been proven to be a fake.

    not a good thing for a president of a country to throw tantrums. too immature, too volatile.

    • O_O
      April 27, 2010 at 12:41 pm

      The fact Noynoy, along with Villar, chickens away from scrutiny?

  32. ScIoN
    May 1, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Politics is all propaganda.

    Noynoy’s team will make use of political surveys (whether reliable or not) as long as they are leading. It definitely brings good feedback to their campaign, so why not use it to their advantage?

    On the other hand, it is also just logical for Gordon (and the others) to downplay the survey results to keep their ground with swaying voters. Besides, is it wrong to remind the people that the surveys shouldn’t be the basis for picking your President? As said by Dick Gordon, the only survey that matters is the one on election day itself.

    These presidentiables are not just waiting to win the lotto, they’re campaigning to win the election! Let them do the campaigning, and as a voter, do your own research. As we always say, vote wisely!

  33. fesh
    May 5, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Bakit hindi ako naniniwalang magaling at matalino si Dick Gordon

    Matagal na at Palagi nyang sinasabi na mas popular sya sa ibang bansa kaysa sa bansang Pilipinas.Dahil umano mas pinahahalagahan sya ng mga banyaga.

    Ngayon tumatakbo sya bilang Pangulo ng bansang Pilipinas at inihayag nya sa kanyang plataporma ang kanyang mga pang matagalang plano sa bansang Pilipinas kung sakaling manalo sya bilang Pangulo.

    Sa kabila ng kanyang mahaba record na nagawa bakit tila hindi pa rin sya ganun ka popular sa bansang kanyang tinatakbuhan bilang Pangulo?

    Hindi ako naniniwalang magaling at matalino si Dick Gordon dahil sa kabila na alam nya na hindi siya popular sa mga Pilipino pero bakit hindi nya nagawang punan ang ganung kahinaan gayung tatakbo pala sya bilang pangulo ng bansang ito?

    Napakahaba ng panahon at pagkakataon nya mula ng sya ay maging Tourism Secretary at Senador upang maging popular sya sa mga Pilipino.

    Nasan ang kanyang galing at talino sa paggawa ng mga pangmatagalang plano kung sa sarili nyang kampanya bilang pangulo tila may nakalimutan syang unahing gawin, yung maging maging popular sa Pilipino?

    • moca
      May 5, 2010 at 7:53 pm

      fesh :
      Bakit hindi ako naniniwalang magaling at matalino si Dick Gordon
      Matagal na at Palagi nyang sinasabi na mas popular sya sa ibang bansa kaysa sa bansang Pilipinas.Dahil umano mas pinahahalagahan sya ng mga banyaga.
      Ngayon tumatakbo sya bilang Pangulo ng bansang Pilipinas at inihayag nya sa kanyang plataporma ang kanyang mga pang matagalang plano sa bansang Pilipinas kung sakaling manalo sya bilang Pangulo.
      Sa kabila ng kanyang mahaba record na nagawa bakit tila hindi pa rin sya ganun ka popular sa bansang kanyang tinatakbuhan bilang Pangulo?
      Hindi ako naniniwalang magaling at matalino si Dick Gordon dahil sa kabila na alam nya na hindi siya popular sa mga Pilipino pero bakit hindi nya nagawang punan ang ganung kahinaan gayung tatakbo pala sya bilang pangulo ng bansang ito?
      Napakahaba ng panahon at pagkakataon nya mula ng sya ay maging Tourism Secretary at Senador upang maging popular sya sa mga Pilipino.
      Nasan ang kanyang galing at talino sa paggawa ng mga pangmatagalang plano kung sa sarili nyang kampanya bilang pangulo tila may nakalimutan syang unahing gawin, yung maging maging popular sa Pilipino?

      You are just one of the many Filipinos who will vote for a person because of his or her popularity. In order to be a good leader, you should have the SKILLS. Popularity is not a skill. You CANNOT solve poverty with POPULARITY.

      • fesh
        May 7, 2010 at 2:19 pm

        Mabuti ang magkaroon ng magandang Idealismo pero dapat wag natin kakalimutan ang realidad.

        Hindi magaling at matalino si Gordon dahil hindi nya kayang balansehin ang Idealismo nya sa realidad!

        ito ang realidad sa pilipinas dapat alam nya yun at gumawa sya ng paaraan na matugunan yun. sa maikling salita tamang pagpaplano. kaya hindi ako bilib sa kanya kasi sa kampanya pa lang nya palpak na sya sa plano.

        • O_O
          May 7, 2010 at 5:51 pm

          You must be either blind or one-sided.

          • fesh
            May 12, 2010 at 8:15 pm

            blind at one sided pa ha! tang ina mo dami mong alam! bobo ka!

        • O_O
          May 7, 2010 at 5:54 pm

          So in short, you want people to stick to the problematic system, and call off any changes that will solve problems.

          You want status quo. Like every other candidate who is afraid of change.

          Isa ka sa mga pabigat ng bayan.

          • fesh
            May 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm

            in short Gordon should learn how to adapt, learn the rules of the games and play better next time!

    • alits
      May 5, 2010 at 8:30 pm

      bakit nga ba hindi popular si Gordon sa mga Pilipino?
      dahil ba hindi sya magaling o matalino?
      sa tingin ko, walang pagkukulang si Gordon sa pagpapakilala sa kanyang sarili.
      dahil kung saan may kailangang tugunan, nandoon sya.
      hindi lang napapahalagahan ng mga tao at binibigyang pansin ang mga nagagawa nya.
      nasa kanya ba ang problema?

      ano ba ang basehan upang maging popular ang isang pulitiko sa Pilipinas?
      apelyido? pangalan? yaman? suporta ng mga artista? kahusayan sa pagsasalita? endorso ng pangulo?

      hindi kahinaan ang hindi nya pagpansin sa kanyang popularidad,
      sya ay naninindigan na may isip tayong mga Pilipino at naniniwala na natuto na rin tayo sa ilang taon nang pagkakamali sa pagpili tuwing eleksyon.

      ang sabi mo, “Napakahaba ng panahon at pagkakataon nya mula ng sya ay maging Tourism Secretary at Senador upang maging popular sya sa mga Pilipino.”

      e ano ba ang trabaho ng nakaupo sa mga posisyong ito? Magpagwapo at magpabango ng pangalan para sa darating na eleksyon ay wala ng problema sa kampanya?
      gaya nga ng sinabi ko kanina – nagawa niya ng mabuti ang hinihingi sa kanya ng sya ay nasa posisyong yan. Kaya nga may WOW Philippines at Automated Elections (alam ko maraming isyu dito, pero maganda ang ganitong sistema kung maisasakatuparan ng maayos), at iba pang mga batas na para sa maayos at matinong pamamahala.

      may pumansin o nagpahalaga sa mga ginawa nyang iyon?
      mas nakikilala kasi natin ang mga taong madalas sa headline na nasasangkot sa kung anong anomalya.. pero ang mga tao na tumutuligsa sa mga tiwali ay madali lang nakakalimutan, madalas pa nga hindi na pinapangalanan..

      ngayon, nakay Gordon ba ang problema kung hindi siya popular sa mga Pilipino?

  34. O_O
    May 5, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Because the presidency is NOT about popularity. It is about WHO can lead, who is competent and who is able, not who is pleasing to the people. We are not in a pageant for christssake!

    • Rod
      May 11, 2010 at 6:06 pm

      I like Gordon but I did not like what he did. With his track record and qualifications, he is for me the best amongst the lot. But a damage suit against SWS and Pulse Asia? That’s desperation written all over his face.

      “We WANT the public not to base their votes on the candidates’ winnability, but on their track records and platform”..Dont you guys get it? It is the “want” not the “message” some people are flabbergasted at. Do you guys see the consequences? That I think is the whole point here.

      I still think he can be the best president if given the chance..

  35. enya
    May 6, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Pangit ang ginawa ni Gordon kung mali yung sinasabi niya. Kaso, totoo e. Tama lang na imulat niya ang mga tao sa katotohanan. Hindi naman pwedeng magduwag-duwagan siya at hayaang maging ganon ang takbo ng isip ng bawat Pilipinong boboto. Madami sa mga kaibigan ko ang nagsasabi sa akin na “Sayang ang boto mo kasi di yan mananalo. Dun ka na sa sure.” Hindi ko lang masabihan ng TANGA kasi kaibigan ko e. Pero totoo. Epekto ng surveys. Pero ako, hindi ako nagpadala sa ganon. Utang na loob naman dimwits, kung ibabase niyo sa survey ang lahat, edi sana di na tayo nagAUTOMATED ELECTION or ELECTION itself. Magastos na, di nalang survey na walang bayad. Nakakainis lang. Dapat kapag election, walang survey! BAN THEM ALL! For our Country’s sake. Ito ang bansang madaming uto-uto na hindi na natuto. At manood kayo ng forums at nang mapahiya mga gusto niyo iboto. Yun ba ihaharap niyo sa ibang bansa? Grabe.. Wala na ba tayong pride n’yan.

  36. l2
    May 6, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    first and foremost gordon is not at all forcing us to vote based on political track records and platforms. he’s simply suggesting to us that we should vote people on a sound basis and what’s better to do that is by looking closely at what these people have done on in the past which contributed to the welfare of the filipino people.

    well it looks to me as though you’re just one of those people who jump on bandwagon blindly and vote whoever is on top of the polls. isn’t that unfair for all those people who’ve been waiting for change this whole time? basing your vote on mere popularity that’s pretty much a big load of hokum. these surveys you’re regarding as facts and information aren’t really credible as basis for voting because math would tell you how infinitesimal the number of people who participated in the said surveys. usually these surveys are done through mock votes participated by 1000 people. these one thousand people can’t represent the majority of the people’s vote because 1000 is not event equal to 1% of the millions of registered voters for this election.

    what gordon is trying to suggest is that we base our votes from our own research and also from who we think is the right candidate for presidency. he doesn’t really care for the position he just wants to help. mind you that the two people on top of the polls already have secured seats in the senate in case they lose(until 2013) while gordon on the other hand is risking everything for change. his term as senator has already ended.

  37. fesh
    May 7, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    sus! matatalog ang magaling nyong si gordon ng isang mongoliod lang?! paano pa kung normal sya!? delete mo ulit!

    • O_O
      May 7, 2010 at 5:52 pm

      Haha! With millions of people voting for Gordon? And you, basing on the opinion of 2000 people? Wishful thinking. Nasamin ang katotohanan. Sayo na ang pantasya mo.

      • fesh
        May 11, 2010 at 4:31 pm

        well well sino kaya ang wishful thinking? sino kaya ang nagpapantasya? ngayon? sino kaya ang ang nagsasabi na mali ang survey ngayon?

      • fesh
        May 11, 2010 at 4:34 pm

        wow! million nga ang bomoto kay Gordon! wow! sino kaya ang wishfull thinking!
        wow! sino kaya ang pantasya!
        wow! mali pala yung survey!

  38. fesh
    May 7, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    sorry sa ibang blog pala yung nagdelete
    hehhe

  39. mga unggoy
    September 27, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    Kumusta na pala yung duwag na binoto ninyo? Abnoy

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