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RH Bill will be voted on in congress – belmonte

this is good mews – after many years being just on the table,  the RH bill will reach the floor for a vote.  finally things will come to a head and we will know where congress stands on this.

RH bill to reach House plenary vote—Belmonte
By Lira Dalangin-Fernandez
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 20:20:00 08/12/2010

MANILA, Philippines—Advocates of the reproductive health bill can pin their hopes that under the leadership of the Speaker Feliciano Belmonte in the 15th Congress, the controversial measure will be voted on in plenary.

“I don’t know if it will pass the House, but definitely it will reach a point of being voted on,” Belmonte said in a news conference Thursday.

He said, however, that he could not predict how the members of the House of Representatives would cast their vote “because in the social setting of the country, it’s a conscience vote of everybody.”

The bill has been in the chamber since the 10th Congress, but has always failed to get the lawmakers’ approval.

It calls for government promotion of both artificial and natural means of family planning and sexuality education, as well as responsible parenthood.

Two bills authored by Minority leader and Albay Representative Edcel Lagman and Iloilo Representative Janet Garin have been refiled so far in this Congress.

  1. Twin-Skies
    August 15, 2010 at 2:00 am

    And once again we can expect the RCC and all the other holier-than-thou religious and “moral” entities throwing a hissy fit over this.

    Get a clue people – women are suffering and dying from unwanted pregnancies for children they cannot properly care for, just so you can sit on your pedestal and act like some morally superior windbag.

  2. The_Filozopher
    August 19, 2010 at 9:10 am

    My essential objection to the RH Bill is the rider tha foetuses can be obtained for r&d &, eventually, commercial purposes. Imagine women treating their foetuses like winos treat their blood — nothing more than commodities for sale. It could be the start of another multi-billion dollar industry, the opportunity the Big Pharmas are just waiting to pounce upon. Not that I’m against big enterprise but more because I dislike legislation that doesn’t take account basics like logic & unnecessarily open new moral hazards. Big pharmas should also come clean in their involvement — through their foundations & donations — on the extent of their involvement int he policy debate.
    Moreover, like the status quo, the RH Bill still treats unwanted pregnancies as the problem of the woman alone. Society — both secular & religious — doesn’t make it easier for the poor mother, regardless of her decision.
    It will be good news indeed if they debate vigorously on the basis of logic & consider my objections.

    • Twin-Skies
      August 24, 2010 at 5:40 pm

      To quote Ben Goldacre: “Pharma being s**t does not mean magic beans cure cancer.” You can harp on and on about how Big Pharma is opportunistic, but that does not really resolve the problem of the women who have to endure pregnancies they aren’t fully prepared for.

      [Imagine women treating their foetuses like winos treat their blood — nothing more than commodities for sale.]

      Last I checked, women who undergo an abortion don’t sell the aborted fetus to some laboratory. You’ll have to cite where you found this source.

      [quote]the RH Bill still treats unwanted pregnancies as the problem of the woman alone.]

      Well, it is her body that has to carry the child.

      [Society — both secular & religious — doesn’t make it easier for the poor mother, regardless of her decision.[/quote]

      And being against a program that includes proper education for the woman involved is going to make it “easier” for the woman to?

  3. Wilberg
    August 21, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    The question is why the unwanted pregnancies? Are these coming from unwanted relationships? Or unwanted sex activities? Or unwanted promiscuity? Or unwanted misbehavior? Are all the causes of the so-called unwanted pregnancies unwanted? If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t; but don’t make us pay — yes, pay (just in case you don’t realize that) — for your pleasure-seeking and irresponsible behaviors.

    • Twin-Skies
      August 24, 2010 at 5:00 pm

      [If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t; but don’t make us pay — yes, pay (just in case you don’t realize that) — for your pleasure-seeking and irresponsible behaviors.]

      And you miss the whole point of the RH program, whose primary goal is supposed to educate.

      • Wilberg
        August 24, 2010 at 6:12 pm

        You’re right, it is supposed to educate but you miss the true goal of the proposed bill. It’s all lies. It is not really about education.

        I would recommend that you visit http://rhbilltruth.wordpress.com.

        • Twin-Skies
          August 24, 2010 at 7:55 pm

          If you’re going to argue, at least go through the trouble of not using a wingnut site that resorts to hyperbole and conjecture. To quote part of you “source”

          “However, she is not just for abortion but also for sex education, RH law, and divorce, which is not surprising.”

          I guess that makes her a bloody murderer by your standards, eh?

          Now speaking of sources,

          http://reproductiverights.org/en/feature/forsaken-livesthe-harmful-impact-of-the-philippine-criminal-abortion-ban

          • Wilberg
            August 25, 2010 at 4:41 pm

            Maybe it’s my fault, I have not told you that I have not used the blog site as a source; it is actually my own “small and new” site where I have already posted some of my arguments regarding the same issue and that were already discussed on this (https://2010presidentiables.wordpress.com) site. My point is, it was already debated many times. Maybe you are new here. If not, you have missed many discussions.

            And I have to correct you with your conclusion that I am resorting to conjectures. Also, I have seen the site that you referred to immediately after I heard Ms. Clara Padilla calling out for the legalization of abortion, so thanks but no thanks.

            And I would say again, RH bill is not about education. It’s true goal is to miseducate people. Do you really believe Edcel Lagman wrote the proposed bill? Lagman doesn’t even understand the bill.

          • Wilberg
            August 25, 2010 at 4:48 pm

            Oh, and just in case you don’t know, RH bill is also about giving condoms, pills, IUDs, and other contraceptives; not just about indoctrination. That’s my point when I said don’t make us pay money just for you to not get pregnant. PNoy just said, it is your (the parent’s) responsibility.

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