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the RH Debate – how misunderstanding data shot anti-RH Bill supporters in the foot

an interesting discussion ensued  at facebook at this site http://www.facebook.com/i.oppose.the.RH.Bill.  we are a member of that group to get better informed about the RH Bill and how it’s supporters are thinking about it.

some data was posted by the administrator and we are posting it here. we will be posting here on the above title as the topic.

  1. zatho
    May 22, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    TO THE PEOPLE OF THE PHILIPPINES:

    HAVE YOU BEEN WONDERING WHY THERE IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE PROMOTION OF THE RH BILL?… READ ON

    What’s New
    Philippines adopts US designed family-planning promotion plan

    02 September 2010
    United States Agency for International Development designed a new family planning promotion strategy being implemented by the Philippines government. The May Plano Ako programme has been conceptualised in line with the MDGs on population control and reproductive health and aims not only at women but also men and youth.

    The government has started implementing a new family planning marketing strategy designed by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID).

    The “May Plano Ako” program, conceptualized by the USAID’s Health Promotion and Communication Project, or HealthPRO, is in line with the country’s Millennium Development Goals, or MDGs, especially those on population control and reproductive health.

    May Plano Ako “targets not only women but also men and young people” on the importance of family planning and contraceptive use, according to a top official of the Department of Health (DoH).

    Unlike previous family planning initiatives of the DoH, which were “sporadic and small-scale,” the new program will be “unified, national and comprehensive,” according to USAID and DoH program materials furnished the Inquirer.

    The US Embassy in Manila has acknowledged Washington’s active role in the Philippine government’s family planning initiatives.

    In a text message, Wossie Mazengia, the US Embassy deputy spokesperson, told the Inquirer that the USAID “continues to work in partnership with the DoH, local governments and the private sector to increase access to and improve the quality of basic health services, including family planning.”

    Training of nurses

    HealthPRO and the DoH-attached National Center for Health Promotion (NCHP) have so far trained 607 nurses and midwives and 2,217 barangay (village) health workers in 11 pilot provinces on “interpersonal communication and counseling on family planning, and maternal and child health.”

    The provinces are Bulacan, Negros Oriental, Negros Occidental, Sarangani, South Cotabato, Zamboanga del Sur, Compostela Valley, Albay, Pangasinan, Capiz and Davao del Sur.

    HealthPRO and NCHP are set to train another 700 health service providers and 3,000 barangay health workers in 12 other provinces: Cagayan, Isabela, Tarlac, Nueva Ecija, Aklan, Bohol, Bukidnon, Misamis Oriental, Misamis Occidental, Agusan del Norte, Zamboanga del Norte and Zamboanga Sibugay.

    The two groups plan to use “strategic communication to enhance family planning and maintain behavior change among targeted market segments in the Philippines.”

    May Plano Ako, finalized in June, has the “full support” of Health Secretary Enrique Ona, said Dr. Ivanhoe Escartin, NCHP head.

    Ona is scheduled to lead the launching of the program on Aug. 31 in Legazpi City while Undersecretary David Lozada and Assistant Secretary Nemesio Gaco are expected to grace similar activities in San Fernando, La Union, and Bacolod City, respectively.

    Communication strategy

    In a 37-page report, titled “Family Planning Behavior Change Communication Strategy,” the NCHP said: “The strategy builds on the understanding that encouraging individuals or couples to use family planning is a process, involving distinct audiences that need different messages and approaches.”

    “Information alone is not enough to bring about behavior change among any audience. Instead, the strategy is based on a multilevel, synchronized and holistic marketing approach to family planning.”

    The same report said “the approach is unique in that it focuses on increasing modern contraceptive use through demand generation, or increasing knowledge and forming positive attitudes toward contraceptive use and birth spacing; social marketing, or repackaging or selling the concept of family planning as a lifestyle that contributes to better quality of life; and service marketing, or building capacity of family-planning service providers and promoting model providers.”

    Lost opportunities

    The report also noted that previous family planning approaches of the DoH had “resulted in lost opportunities to involve men and young people and address values that may actually drive contraceptive use.”

    Citing data from the National Demographic and Health Survey and the Commission on Population, among others, the NCHP said that:
    Many poor Filipino women are having more children than they want.
    “Currently, the total number of children a Filipino woman has during her reproductive years is one child higher than the desired number, or 3.3 vs. 2.4. For the poorest women, it is two children (5.2) higher than the desired number.”

    A large proportion of married women, especially those with more than two children want no more kids, yet contraceptive use is low.

    “More than half (54 percent) of married women in the Philippines want no more children. The proportion of women who no longer want additional children increases with the number of living children.”

    “However, contraceptive use is low and has remained fairly stagnant over the last five years. Only one out of three married women is using a family planning method and only one out of three is using a modern method.”

    Unmet need

    Adolescents, those aged 15 to 19, have the “highest unmet need for family planning.”

    The DoH defines “unmet need” as “the percentage of married women who either want to stop having children or want to wait for their next birth but are not using any family planning method.”

    More than one in five pregnancies in the country are either mistimed or unwanted.

    Worse, “many women obtain an abortion when they discover an unplanned pregnancy.”

    “About one in five pregnancies in the Philippines end up in illegal abortions, mostly in unsafe conditions that can lead to maternal deaths.”
    In a May Plano Ako briefing paper, HealthPRO said “many Filipinos believe having a plan is good for their families.”

    “They not only want their government to help them plan their families. They also have to get the information and services they need to help them plan their families,” HealthPRO also said.

    Aside from HealthPRO, USAID’s other health-related projects in the country include SHIELD, short for Sustainable Health Improvement Through Empowerment and Local Development; Health Policy Development Program (HPDP); Private Sector Mobilization for Family Health (PRISM); and Strengthening Local Governance for Health (HealthGov).

    These projects are part of the US government’s “Country Assistance Strategy for the Philippines” from 2009 to 2013.

    P4.46B in USAID projects

    Last year, the USAID allocated $96.04 million (about P4.46 billion) to its projects in the Philippines.

    Nearly $27 million (about P1.25 billion) of the budget was spent on health-related projects like the drive against HIV-AIDS, tuberculosis and other infectious diseases.

    In June, then Health Secretary Esperanza Cabral cited the USAID as a DoH partner in the state’s family planning campaign.

    Earlier in an interview, Cabral told the Inquirer that the government’s family planning program had “not been as successful as we want it to be.”

    “Even as population growth is coming down, it is not coming down at the rate necessary to improve the country’s socioeconomic status,” she said.

    Target growth rate

    Cabral said the state needed to “bring it down (from 2.04 percent in 2008) to a level of 1.3 to 1.4 percent per annum where the population will stabilize.”

    In a report on the Philippines, the UN Millennium Campaign (on the MDGs) said “the country’s high population growth is diluting the gains of economic growth.”

    “The larger the population a country has, the greater will be the pressure on basic social services and on natural resources,” it said.

    Here, “more than one million babies are born every year. They will be needing resources in the future, such as health care, schooling, food, clothing and later on, employment. Even today, these needs are not being met,” the report added.

    Source: Asian Journal

  2. May 24, 2011 at 7:04 am

    OMG seriously? I am pro RH BILL not because I hate children or to have a kid, but to those people na mahilig mangalabit at night without proper job and a decent income and take note mas marami pang anak nya compare to me, why? (answer that first)

    Second..sa mga anti RH BILL what will you gain? Dignity? Common Church and Government doesn’t care about you in the Republic of the Philippines you are on your own. But to those who are pro RH BILL not only we give them a choice mamili if they want to use a condoms and pills.

    Abortion? kamo? As a nursing student and we all know that as long the sperm doesn’t reach the female egg there will be no baby, and condoms hinders sperm to reach that, pills and other methods. so there is no abortion.

    Mga anti RH BILL seriously I say it again..for the sake of our over populated country its a choice ang pag gamit ng contraceptive pills and etc. IF EVER MA patupad ang RH BILL IT DOESN’T MEAN NA GAGAMIT LAHAT NG PINOY remember it’s A CHOICE and not a MUST. If hindi mapatupad then what? you win what have you gained? you just blocked an other approach of minimizing our population instead of getting FREE contraceptive pills they must buy it. (True pwde nman bilihin..but 70% of our population are poor, do you think they will waste money on that? let’s have sex nalang and bahala na if may ma buo. is that what you want? Think mga kabayan..either ma tupad ang RH bill or not mga ANTI RH BILL will not gain anything. yeah pride sige tama kyo..BUT if pride ang pag uusapan..be pride enough to work sa bansa natin (not abroad) be pride enough not to speak in english speak tagalog. patriotism eh! Let’s see kung ano mang yayari sa Pride nyo.

    (In short if you are against RH BILL don’t be selfish what about those who are pro RH BILL give them a choice to get free contraceptive pills from their respective barangays., again trust me you won’t gain nothing kung Ibabasura ang RH BILL, the funds for that project..will go not in your tash, not in your province and especially not in your municipality.) Give another approach on how to reduce population give RH BILL a chance.

  3. zatho
    May 24, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Even without this rh bill. every one is free to choose his way of contraception. GUSTO MO MAG PILLS- YOU ARE FREE TO DO IT. GUSTO MO MAG CONDOM – YOU ARE FREE TO DO IT NOW. You want ligation or vasectomy or iud– nobody is stopping you from getting access to it.

    What this bill does is to make it mandatory by means of brainwashing our children (by means of mandatory attendance in sex education classes). So that when they are of reproductive age, the children will find it ACCEPTABLE or EVEN THE EASIER CHOICE, to get contraceptives rather than to EXERCISE SELF CONTROL.

    This bill not only makes it alright for teens to engage in promiscuity. It promotes it by making it alright so long as you have protection or contraceptives.

    This Rh bill should be restricted to a rating of PG (parental guidance) or R (restricted) or even For Adults only.. This Rh bill makes it mandatory for children to attend sex education classes (without parental guidance)

    Ano ba naman ang gusto ng proponents nitong Rh bill na gawin sa bansa natin?

    Poverty is caused by lack of drive of people to succeed, lack of faith in God, and by greed/corruption of people. Sometimes by sheer stupidity and laziness.

    The solution for poverty is not immorality. Spending of millions of pesos (tax payers money) to give away contraceptives to people, to me seems to be the wrong approach.

    KAILAN BA NAGING ESSENTIAL MEDICINES ANG CONTRACEPTIVES? That we the taxpayers should be obligated to purchase with our taxes. Hypertension medicines, anti tuberculosis medicines, vaccines, antibiotics etc.. yun ang essential medicines. Alam mo ba kung ilan ang namamatay dahil walang pambili ng anti-hypertension medicines? dengue? etc.

    HOW CAN IT PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE PARENTHOOD when you give away contraceptives, which will be purchased from taxes of the people.

    HINDI BA NAKAKAHIYA IYON NA IBA ANG GAGASTOS NG CONDOM, PILLS etc para sa pagtatalik ng isang magka partner? Ano responsible doon? Dapat kung gusto mo mag condom, mag-condom ka pero ikaw bumili galing sa pera na pinaghirapan mo. Hindi galing sa pera ng ibang tao. DELIKADEZA LANG YUN, AT SELF RESPECT.

    And we are not talking only of a few pesos per condom, we are talking of hundreds of millions of pesos.

    THE GOVERNMENT MUST BE MORE CIRCUMSPECT IN SPENDING PEOPLE’S MONEY. Contraception is a private matter. The rh bill should promote individual responsibility.

    THIS IS HOW THEY WANT TO BRAINWASH OUR CHILDREN.. THEY WILL BE USING THE EDUCATONAL SYSTEM ( MANDATORY SEX EDUCATION ) TO MAKE CONTRACEPTION ACCEPTABLE TO YOUNG CHILDREN. SO THAT WHEN THEY GROW OLDER, THE CONTRACEPTIVE INDUSTRY WILL HAVE A MARKET FOR THEIR PRODUCTS.

    our children is not a market.. they are our future. if we allow the pro-rh to corrupt their minds now, what will happen to the philippines?

    What this rh bill wants is for our nation to have a culture of contraception. DO YOU WANT FOR OUR PEOPLE TO HAVE THIS CULTURE OF CONTRACEPTION?

    In Psychology and training, if you are promoting an idea, and you use mandatory education to propagate it, in layman terms, we call it BRAINWASHING. Brainwashing is the application of techniques that tend to persuade or coerce to implant ideas into the subjects. To affect a persons thought patterns and subsequent behavior (wether you realize it or not).

    “Age-appropriate Reproductive Health and Sexuality Education shall be integrated in all relevant subjects…”

    If YOU PUT SEX EDUCATION INTO TEXT BOOKS, AND THE CHILDREN ARE TASKED TO STUDY THESE TEXTBOOKS , THEN THIS IS MANDATORY. THE RH BILL WANTS PARENTS TO OPT OUT OF THIS MANDATORY LESSONS. BUT HOW MANY PARENTS WILL EVEN BE AWARE OF THESE LESSONS? REMEMBER THE LESSONS WILL BE FROM GRADE 5 TO 4TH YEAR HIGH SCHOOL. THIS OPT OUT IS DECEPTIVE.. WHAT THEY SHOULD PUT IN THERE IS OPT IN.. MEANING IF YOU WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO ATTEND SEX EDUCATION CLASSES THEN YOU CAN OPT IN.. THE WAY TO OPTING OUT IS DECEPTIVE AND IS NOT REASONABLE

    let the children get older so they may decide for themselves what they want to learn… to do. Education is not evil. It is alright , but if this rh bill gets passed into law. It will not be a choice anymore.

    If the children are too young to decide, then it is us parents who must protect them by by being wise.

    It is the parents who have primary responsibility in the moral upbringing of his child. If the government through its laws unreasonably interferes with it, then the law is inherently wrong.

    There are good points in this bill. But if you include those that intrude on parental authority, and religious freedom and also considering the manner by which this law is to be implemented, maraming bad points itong rh bill. It is not a good law.

    Alam mo ba na ang population ng mga muslim sa pilipinas is just a fraction of the entire population of the country? Pero mayroon silang special privileges. for example, pwede sila mag-asawa ng madami, maron silang principle na ‘blood money’, etc..

    You know why? Because of ‘FREEDOM OF RELIGION’. We respect their right to their beliefs. Maski na it is contrary to ours.

    MAYROON TAYONG FREEDOM DITO sa PILIPINAS. We should guard against any form of laws that will diminish our freedoms.

    Alam mo, this bill does not increase any of your freedoms that you now already enjoy. You already have this freedom to choose, what ever you like. You most certainly know what is there to know about family planning, sexuality, social dynamics, if you only inform yourself about it.

    This bill will not increase your knowledge or your freedom. THIS BILL WILL NOT MAKE OUR COUNTRY PROSPER.

  4. October 20, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    yeah we have the right if we wanna have sex right

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