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bakit absent si eddie villanueva sa presidentiables forum sa DLSZ?
nagtatanong lang po – bakit wala si eddie villanueva sa presidential forum sa de la salle zobel? siya nga yung kulelat sa surveys kailangang kailangan niya ang exposure sa mga botante at media.
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i agree, with villanueva’s low standing in the polls and what we can assume his not having the kind of funds other presidentiables have for advertising, events like these which are covered by media is a must for him to attend. lost opportunity. sayang!
Everyone has a good chance to win!
Whether or not some Presidential candidates is absent in whatever presidential forum.
hini po inimbita si bro. eddie ng organizers. mga traditional politicians lang daw ang puede don. sila noynoy, villar, gibo and erap lang ang invited. nong umayaw si erap, pinalit si gordon.
this goes to the point i had raised earlier – villanueva is non-factor in this election.
wrong .. biased lang siguro yung forum na iyon .. marami namang ibang fora na nanduon si brother eddie .. nandiyan din yung silent majority na sawang sawa na sa dumi .. EDDIE AKO!!!
non-factor ba si Bro. Eddie,e, bakit hinahanap mo? I think in your subconcious mind, alam mong dapat siyang iboto kaso takot kang mag-isa(sa akala mo lang na mag-iisa ka). Marami na ang matalino ngayon no!
yeah you’re right bro..baka nga ntatakot lang sya ng mag-isa. for everybodys info: almost all of the sectors in our country will be supporting bro. eddie, so i don’t he needed more exposure.
ang kailangan lang ay ma-inform ang sambayanang pilipino about the character and especially the platform of government of each and every candidate .. “by word of mouth” ika nga .. hindi na kailangan pa ng napakagastos na mga ads na babawiin lang kung sakaling maging pangulo .. ang mga supporters ni brother eddie ay willing to go an extra mile para sa kapakanan ng sambayanang pilipino .. gratis .. walang bahid ni anumang pag-iimbot o pansariling kapakanan si brother eddie .. tatlumpung taon+ na naging isang bukas na aklat ang kanyang buhay .. ano pa ba ang hahanapin mo? .. suportahan mo na si brother eddie .. siya ang tunay na pag-asa ng bayan .. aahon tayo sa kahirapan sa pangunguna ni brother eddie na walang hangad kung hindi mapabuti ang kalagayan mo, kabayan
Yet Eddie is overshadowed by the likes of Gordon who already proved themselves.
if it is true, it is very worrisome that organizers did not invite villanueva to join the forum. that means this grouo do not see villanueva as a factor in this election. villanueva declared his candidacy ahead of gorodon and yet gordon was invited here but not villanueva.
that is again consistent with the points i have raised on villanueva – he is simply a non factor in this election. he has a long way to go to win this election. if he can’t be invided by this group, how will he expect voters to vote him?
peo kapatid dapat bang maging biased…
sa aking pananaw, nangunguna man o kulelat, dapat pa din silang mapakinggan…
Lalo na kung MAKABULUHAN naman ang kanilang sinasabi…
biased nga kasi .. marami namang iba na hindi ganuon kaya malaking malaki pa rin ang tsansang manalo si brother eddie ..
i dont know why. pero… theres one thing na MALI sa sinabi nyo… hindi po kulelat si bro. eddie… actually, in ALMOST ALL internet poll ratings si bro. eddie ang nasa LEAD!
i mean i dont know why he wasnt invited…but according sa comment ni DREA…eh hindi daw kze invited si bro. eddie….
bro.eddie does not need more exposure that the other candidates who is desperate to win.wag mong sitahin kung bakit wala ci kua bro.eddie.kung si noynoy nga nang iindyan sa mga forum,ok villar is always there pero think about it why he is always there kc desperadong manalo para mabawi ang mga ngastos nya.
how can you expect villanueva to win if people do not get to know him? villanueva suffers from a very basic problem in this election – people do not know him and he is against many presidentiables who are already known by the people.
aquino may not feel the need to go exactly because he is the dominant fromnt runner. villar is the only true contender to aquino because he has made so much effort to be seen and heard through media coverage and billions of pesos in advertising money.
villanueva is at the bottom of the surveys because he has not done and does not have any of the above.
oh?, but we do know him and a lot more people are getting to know him better and better as the days go by .. dito lang sa blogsite na ito ay parami ng parami ang nakakakilala kay brother eddie .. naniniwala akong hahataw siya!!!
that is not being shown in the SWS and Pulse Asia national surveys. villanueva remains at the bottom with little to no change.
even in our place Bro. Eddie’s name was not included in the surveys, but many knew about him. when we asked why? because that is what we were asked too. However, we believe that election 2010 and Bro. Eddie’s candidacy for President 2010 is already destined. We are looking forward to that, A new Philippines will arise. God Bless Bro. Eddie.
Almost all internet polls? You’re kidding us.
im not kidding you gotta check it out for yourself!
give the web “SITES”
i gave the websites… wawam deleted them
yes i deleted them because you were spamming that post. you have been warned about spamming already.
Then show links. Each and every link.
dito pa lang tignan mo nga kung sino nangunguna… meron pong poll dito
oh wawam, sir, bkit po ninyo binura yung links n pinost ko d2 as a reply for ur request to SHOW THE LINKS? are you worried n mlaman ng mga tao na BRO. EDDIE is indeed rating REMARKABLY HIGHER if not the TOP among all the presidentiables?
you were spamming that particular post which is not allowed in this blog. you have been warned that a repeat will cause you to be banned from posting in this blog.
hey wawam sir, i dont think i was spamming….i was simply replying to others’ quote. but enweyz if you think so… then kindly post my reply after your inquiry… pra nman hndi magmukhang speechless ako after your demanding of the links, k? isnt this fair enough???
yes you spammed that post – putting in at least 5 discussions although i deleted all of them except for one.
there are no hits at google search, dapat overwhelming yun…it will significantly appear if you type “bro eddie survey”
si wawam insecure lang kay bro eddie kasi kulelat manok nya sa survey dito mismo sa blog site nya..
di mo ba napapansin,wawam?lahat na lang ng mga sinasabi mo dito puro thumbs down?ibig sabihin walang saysay mga sinasabi mo dito sa blog site mo,hehehe
he was too busy.. too many skeds
sayang naman…. kailangan mapakingan lahat para patas ang labanan, kailangan lahat ininvited, dahil yun ang kailangan…
bias din ang organizer nung debate
presidentiables in the laggards group like villanueva should be hungry to join events like these. it is media exposure on a national basis for free!
HELLOW KULELAT????
C FOR YOUSELVES….
D PA NGA XA NANGANGAMPANYA ME 1 % NA XA EH..
HOW MUCH MORE IF HE IS DOING IT…
TSAKA CNO KULELAT????
SA FACEBOOK PANG #2 XA AT DATI NUMBER 1….
IN OTHER POLLS NUMBER 1 XA….PANO NA PAG NAGSALITA NA UNG MGA TAONG D MAKAPAGCOMPUTER….
TSAKA SA TINGIN NYO MILYON MILYON ANG SINUSERVEY????
ASK UR SELF KUNG GANUN NGA…WHAT IF 5000 OR 1000 LANG NA TAO….
HEHEHE PEACE MEN…
please refrain from using all caps in your comment. it is considered rude.
hehehe,galit sayo
kulelat naman talaga si villanueva.
ang tawag pala sa naguguna sa rating dito eh kulelat,hahaha
i think what was being referred to are the SWS and Pulse Asia national polls where villanueva is at the bottom showing little to no change from previous polls.
hi antenna! i think ur antenna has gone out of good reception…hndi kulelat si BRO. EDDIE… bka kelangan mo ibukas ang iyong mga mata na pilit ipinipikit, k? peace tyo!
just as your self. C God po ang kinakalaban nyo..Remember bro.Eddie is a man of God.
it seems that most of the people in this forum are BIASED…this site is “pro-Bro. EDDIE site” that is why even a hint of negative comment for bro eddie received to many thumbs down…most of the people (young people KKBs) here are member of bro eddie’s founded(religion)church. And i notice that this fundamentalist candidate is leading here on a mock “on line election” (very un-scientific) eto siguro yung fanatically claimed by one of the pastor that bro eddie is “LEADING sa internet survey”…
hi sean, many internet survey says bro. eddie is on the lead… you might check it out… also… bro . eddie is not endorsed only by JIL memeber but by different civic groups… the truth shall prevail…that our country is very much close to prosperity…mabubura na sa mapa ng kasaysayan ng pilipinas ang korapsyon at kahirapan… dahil this time… si Lord na ang magiging in-charge sa bayan natin. I may sound churchy but this is true… When the wicked is in ruling, the nation suffers… but when a righteous man is leading… the nation is blessed! Check the scriptures and you would learn how much God is grieved over the condition of our country… this is high time that we deviate from the path of traditional politics which has enslaved our country since time immemorial… this is the time for REAL CHANGE! Pag ibang kandidato ang ibobot nten, gnun p rin ang mangyayari…bka lalo pa malubog sa khirapan at immoralidad ang bansa naten! I suggest that you check out Bro. Eddie’s profile and platforms, the real ones, to see for yourself whether he deserves yours and our votes or not
the country is NOT close to prosperity, not even by a long shot. a large majority of the philippine population belong to the DE socio-eco class.
internet surveys are not scientific, it is not the true voice of a registered voter…by the sound of your sentence you are a member of his founded church…i will not blame you for your biased opinion (anyway its just your opinion) its hard to accept the PLAIN FACT…i dont see any sign that bro eddie is significant..if he really is, marami ang lalabas na “skeleton in the closet” which if lalabas, “he” will surely say that it is a political assasination”
i am not supporting any candidate as of now…as i can see..(my opinion) i see them all as the same “TRAPO”
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum.- Lucretius, De rerum natura
To such heights of evil are man driven by religion
“HISTORY DENIERS” ARE SO BLIND ON THAT…most of country ruled by religious fanaticism suffer..read the histories of Europe and you will see what Jose Rizal has seen kaya he is the enemy of religious people during his time…
to many “fantastic” claims (year 2000, the Philippines as the America of Asia?) a prophecy is a propecy lalo na kung magbibigay ng exact date..
i can see that these people are self righteous claiming that they have the KEY…i can say that these kind of opinion is HONEST but it is also LOST and DELUSIONAL…
another thing… didnt you know that SWS and the Pulse Asia Survey’s reputation has long been stained??? Meaning, these groups are alleged found to be biased by many NGOs..so and so!
this is not true at all. in fact even the presidentiables use the data for their own planning and actions.
what if bro eddie is # one in this sws survey? i believed that you and your “coreligionist” will not sing that same tune…and besides it is the “old mantra” that you and your “coreligionist” are always uttering, since 2004 election pa…
this blog is not biased, it’s just that many of those who post comments in this blog belong to a specific group of supporters of certain presidentiables.
based on the daily hits, this blog is visited by a very much larger number of people who most likely are just content with reading the posts and comments here but do not post comments.
i think you are wise…and reasonable…
….and realistic also.
Brod, baka naman wicked k rin kaya ayaw mong imulat ang mata mo sa katotohanan n c Bro. Eddie ang nangunguna khit dito sa blog site nu!
wicked? “katotohanan”?
that is a “self righteous claim” of a fundamentalist evangelicals..you and your friends are ANNOUNCING here…you are making a bad impression and bad message to others..that is not good for promoting bro Eddie.
beside, what is the “rational” relationship between being “wicked” and Bro Eddie leading here on your so called “internet survey”
so naive…so innocent…hindi alam ng mga pro bro eddie na nandito ang sinasabi nila..people who always mixed religion in matters of leading a country is not good…history tells it…at first they are MEEK and by the time they become powerful, they become “brutal” most of the religion has that kind of tendency…bro eddie is invoking a BRONZE AGE MYTH of leadership and his founded church and most of the evangelical group believe that this planet of ours is less than 10,000 years old (my goodness) “THE HEART OF THE FILIPINO PEOPLE MUST CHANGE FIRST and the rest will follow” kahit sion ang umupo wala paring mababago.. japan is not a christian country, and yet they are not belong to a third world country just like other country who are FANATICALLY RELIGIOUS (most of the catholic country are poor and islamic fundamentalist like afghanistan is rotting)
This fundamentalist evangelical christian are giving fantastic and unrealistic claims..
hi sean! i think you dont know fully what you are talkin about… you sound as if you read some article here and there and then made a conclusion that you know and understand everything else around you. One important thing, the JIL church and the evangelical churches are never pro-religion. Religion divides people and creates lots of conflicts between people. What we, the evangelical Christians profess is the significane of a RELATIONSHIP of man to his Creator.
We the evangelical Christians by no means are giving unrealistic claims. I think its not too much for me to say, that we, scientists here in Japan are not as naive and as innocent as you say we are. What qualifications do you hold (for us to believe you) to say that you know whats gonna happen when a man like Bro. Eddie gets elected as president?
And regarding Japan, indeed this is not a Christian country… but it has its own bitterness…are you aware that while they are almost the richest country in the world, they are also having the highest suicide rate every year… that is not less than 10,000 people kill themselves because of depression. Most japanese people dont go to churches/temples though the majority of them are buddhists.
Whatever, things just boil down into this plain truth… that without God, man is nothing… and without God’s intervention in a sick nation such us ours… sure peril awaits on it.
-vinu
hello Annalyn,
here is my question, are you understand what you are talking about?
you said “One important thing, the JIL church and the evangelical churches are never pro-religion”. that is a BIG LIE..every scholar of religious study in the world will not agree with you. it seem your statement is so “parochial”.
i don’t just read articles or some kind of current events…its in history since the beginning of your religion (Christianity) from a renowned scholarly publish books. It seems (i am sorry to say) that you are not aware what you are not saying…all you know is that “christian fundamentalist ideals” which is a more similar tactics comparing to other religious fundamentalist (islam and others) I think if bro eddie will win, it will create problems with other christian group as we all know bro eddie is well known to tied to religious organization (kahit sabihin mo that his founding JIL Church is NOT promoting any religion) Conflicts between interfaith are common in Christianity. kaya nga sa lahat ng religion sya ang may pinakamaraming sekta (palagay ko alam mo yan) Besides JIL have also its own dilemma when other of its leader go on separate ways because of “benefits issue” and became JRM. you should know your church history too.
anyway japan has that kind of tendency to do suicidal act because of their culture for HONOR and family redemption,
at least marunong silang mahiya di katulad ng mga HELLsent politician dito.
and did you know that the Japanese “kamikaze” suicide bombers are RELIGIOUSLY INSPIRED they are blessed by a Shinto priest before killing them selves. Religion poisons everything.
This world of ours has full of BATTLE FOR GOD everyone tells that “our religion or doctrine has the “right path”
IT seems you are ONLY preaching…
its a pity you called your selves a “scientist” in japan
a simple common sense lang..that is i am trying to tell…ever since i post my views in this forum… i think your logical thinking and being rational as a woman of science is being block by your religious convictions..
sorry to tell this…
religion always contradict science
people in our country is quite to far in understanding this concept because most of our countryman is religiously blind….even as educated LIKE YOU
sean panoorin mo ung movie n “Exodus Decoded” movie at nang malaman mo n hindi contradict ang science and religion. panoorin mo wag mong ipipikit ang mata mo…
i have watch it..it is produce and financed by creationist…
papanoorin ko ulit mamaya at ididilat kong ang mata ko..
Simcha Jacobovici is the director of this documentary..(he is a Creationist and ZIONIST) is making also movies claiming that Christianity is a lie. He is also behind The Lost Tomb of Jesus Documentary, and the movie is claiming findings that is detrimental to a Christianity we knew today(panoorin mo din yun at wag mo rin ipipikit ang mata mo)
you are doing a CHERRY PICKING only
>>kahit sion ang umupo wala paring mababago..
With the candidate I have in mind and how he proved this can be done, I beg to disgress.
But I agree that these Eddie supporters are full of themselves.
Para sa Tunay na Pag-babago. BRO. EDDIE
I cannot accept people who haven’t proven their worth in public executive positions, I’m afraid.
hindi p b malinaw s inyo n nagsimula lng ang JIL sa 15 student, at ngyon ay around the globe n ang JIL.
Yes its true, and so other religion has its Humble Beginnings…
JIL Has its incident of rebellion (the rebellion incident is told at JIL LOVE STORY BOOK), i interviewed someone and told that it begins with BENEFITS issue and Financial issues. You can ask a honest old member of in their church for that.
Eventually, it leads to a separation of significant key leaders and produce it self a new group called JESUS Reign MINISTRIES
And EVENTUALLY AGAIN, some leaders of JRM have an argument in financial issues and some dogmatic argument.
and yet again, another group of church leaders and elders (specially the rich ones) create a new group called JESUS CHRIST THE DELIVERER which i think mr Estipona is one of the member as he post here.. while giving a testimonial claims.
someone told me that it developed to a more extreme faith base evangelical group…
I noticed that you are so ZEALOUS and so CONFIDENT that your RELIGION (your faith) is PERFECT in leading this country…
i am just doing my homework on research in the HISTORICITY of organized religion.
I WILL not definitely TRUST the POLITICAL TRAPOS..and i will think twice before i trust the future of our country to religious fundamentalism.
Since you are researching on Christianity and its history.Take a closer look on God’s work in JCTD and JA1.On how God heals hopeless cases of sickness and diseases and how God drive evil spirits from person’s body.Look for youtube link on JCTD and interview doctors and nurses in PGH where they send hopeless or incurable cases.
After that, post it here in the blog on what you observed and interviewed.I will wait for your posting.
can you bring me an amputee that grows a limb after being prayed at your church? (filmed and documented)
id rather amaze when i see lizard growing its tail after its separation to escape from a predator. (EVOLUTION thru NATURAL SELECTION, i just love DARWIN!!)
our natural world is full of beauty and elegance, i will not blind my self on this beauty and awe by creating MONSTER and DEMONS that religion GRAPHICALLY insisting upon.
and yet again..i am sorry to say.. a irrational claims and just another religious hoax design to solicit money after this religious service. . And it’s not different from other cult and messiahship claims.
id rather watch Scooby-Doo than a healing service.
since you are insisting sources:
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/god5.htm
I have this documentary film called MARJOE 1972, you can download it at torrent sites. Open wide your eyes while watching it, after all i have already watch many MIRACLE HEALING SERVICE than you do…
Here are some info about marjoe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe
REASON AND FREE INQUIRY the only game in town.
the American forefather had said:
“Reason and free inquiry are the only effectual agents against error.” – Thomas Jefferson Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)( note: religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.
i have watched your pastor TED and LAWRENCE and your claims at “you tube” just as you requested…
psychiatrist will tell you that “there is a thin line between RELIGION and INSANITY…
its “funny” that even other evangelicals as i heard consider your group as KULTO
watch MARJOE the documentary film I’ve mention…there is a similarity between your claims and MARJOE’s
MAY MGA NANGINGISAY DIN DUN!!!
sa bible pro.29:2 kapag ang matuwid na tao ang nasa katungkulan magagalak ang mga tao,kapag ang wicked ang pamumuno ang taoy malulungkot.bro. ay isang matiwd n tao at siya ang gusto ng Dios sa ating bansa.
sa lahat ng mga nagmamahal sa Dios at sa bayan samahan natn si bro.eddie para sa ating bansa,mahal k ang atng bansa kaya kay eddie ako
sali lang ako sa usapan nila sean at annalyn… bat nga ba maunlad ang bansang Japan? isama mo narin ang South Korea at China. It simply because, those other countries started their history on a very long time ago. 12th century plang e may may mga kaharian na sila, compare sa pinas na late 18th century na nagkaroon ng pamahalaan. So time frame wise, mas maunlad pa pla tyong kung tutuusin.
continue to study history nolan..kahit di na ako masyadong mg explain I am quite sure you will also notice redundancy on what is happening today..
“literature not scripture sustain the mind”
we are the first republic in Asia… we have all the first, high school palang pinaaaralan na yan…but it seems our neighboring Asian have overtaken us economically, technologically, and even in tourism
Nagasaki and Hiroshima (in japan) was bombarded by atomic bombed and yet they are number one today in Asia.
in a plain common sense..bakit kaya ganito? so far very little percentage lang ang nakakasagot ng simple common sense na ito dito sa forum…all i can see is religious views that even non evangelical Christians also claims.
to tell you frankly and honestly i can go for bro eddie due to the sayings of “choose a LESSER EVIL compare to others. (the TRAPOS!)
the problem i saw as i observed in the whole on this forum is RELIGOIUS FUNDAMENTALIST mindset as young people and some “educated” people are invoking, promoting, PREACHING (may outline panga ng sermon)as i can see that is UNHEALTHY in creating a CIVIL SOCIETY.
some people here will be angry..it is “natural”, its because religious practitioners in this forum has a natural tendency to defend its beloved leader,
just like any other religion who is defending their guru, imams, Savior and their doctrine. Most of them may even willing to conveniently kill innocent people just to defend their so called FAITH…
The BURDEN of PROOF is in those people here in this forum who is zealously, religiously, fanatically, supporting their religious leader…
It seams we the FILIPINO is way behind compare to other non religion invoking countries, They have learn their lesson well in their historical past when religion (FUNDAMENTALISM) once rule in their ways of life.
because corrupt officials are taking charge of our country. try bro. Eddie, and youll see something may happen in our country.
it seems you are a new member of JIL…have you read the JIL published book JIL LOVE STORY? (i have one in my library) there is a chapter that tells some leaders of JIL rebelling..i have told that its a BENEFITS ISSUE and “financial” management as well.. it seem that your church is “not immune” anyway…
First let me say that i admire sir sean for being an intelligent person. makikita natin to sa mga no non-sense idea’s na nailalahad nya dto sa blog. Please dont get me wrong, coz i really do admire this kind of persons.
but let me explain more about my side regarding history. What i really mean is, they have already established a very good system since yung time na ang alam lang natin e ang magbungkal ng lupa at mag pana ng hayop. I may be wrong on 12th century era, pero late man or early on that period, e nasaan ba naman ang mahal nating Pilipinas…(oops, wala pa plang pangalan ang bansa natin that time.)
Please dont tell us na hindi Religious ang mga bansang yan (Japan,korea,china). Remember,most of this countries are Budhist, right? And they are far more religious than ours . I can tell you this coz i worked on south korea for 3 years. They also experienced economic down fall since north and south korean war. But since they have this Proven SYSTEM since their Kingly Government (+/-12th century), Same also on Japan on their Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombing, e nkabangon sila ng mabilis.
Dahil din sa pagiging RELIHIYOSO nila kaya may takot sila sa mga superiors nila at yung mga lider nila e may takot din na madungisan ang pagkatao nila.
Unlike sa mga liders natin…mga relihoyosong HILAW…kunyari mga banal yet walang pakialam kahit batbat na ng dungis ang mga mukha nila. Kapal Muks talaga. Kaya nga this is our battle cry, to have a leader who is God fearing for real.
Ilabas na natin ang pagiging Relihiyoso dito, dun nalang tayo sa taong marunong matakot sa mas nakakataas sa kanya, at walang ibang mas mataas sa Presidente ng Pilipinas kundi ang Diyos na mismo. So kung may kinakakatakutan at ginagalang na prinsipyo ang isang presidente,e masisisgurto natin yung totoong PAG-UNLAD sa lalong madaling panahon.
To sum this up… Proven System + a GENUINE God fearing Leader = Maunlad na Bansang Pilipinas. Hope you got our point,,,peace po tyo.
Hello Nolan..you have uttered..”To sum this up… Proven System + a GENUINE God fearing Leader = Maunlad na Bansang Pilipinas. Hope you got our point,,,peace po tyo”.
:=) i can help but to smile and at the same time flabbergast as i read it…(and i love peace too)
I believe in “reason and free inquiry”. Martin Luther the founder of Protestantism where Evangelical Christianity are the HYBRID of it, zealously oppose “reason” when he uttered a statement that “reason is the DEVIL’s HARLOT” (so religiously superstitious!). I am also an “egalitarian”, i will not see my self being SELF RIGHTEOUS and superior to others because of believing certain DOCTRINES…(sadly i can see this self righteous attitude in most of bro Eddie’s supporters here, it is their “natural tendencies”, because it is being preach in the pulpit. (“And i consider it weakness to themselves and their campaign..the religion of INC (w/c is also a self proclaimed righteous ignoramus) and some cautious evangelicals will take a note of it “… I remember long time ago when i heard bro Eddie preaching and insulted the INC and called it INGLESIA NI KULAPO! and now he is “compromising” his belief by courting on them…specially last 2004) i also remember bro Eddie was preaching long time ago also, that some of the christian group (evangelicals) came and study only at SEMENTERIO not in seminary (funny). I have manage to read a published book of JIL history called JIL LOVE STORY and notice they have that dilemma of having a “rebellion” on their midst (they are not immune after all!) I heard that it is a depute in “BENEFITS ISSUE” and “financial management”. That is why some of their leaders go on separate ways and became JESUS REIGN MINISTRIES and eventually have their own “schism” and separated unto becoming JESUS the Deliverer Ministries….(nagka-tutukan pa raw ng baril sabi ng kapibahay ko…) that is the “weakness” of Christianity, as i Always said and scholars of religious study around the world notice it that;
in three monotheistic faith JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM.. christianity develop more sect and denomination than any other (and still growing!). I remember a quote from a renowned scholar.. “religion is man made, even the man who made it cannot agree on what their SAVIOR, LEADER, GURU “said and did”……
“REASON” AND “FREE INQUIRY” young lad! not religious-fundamentalist blind faith…
As i said earlier, religious fundamentalism is UNHEALTHY in creating a CIVIL SOCIETY…and it is also a threat in HUMAN SURVIVAL…
in Northern Ireland, Bosnia, Belfast, Afghanistan even here at our own country (in muslim mindanao)….to name a few.. has its INTER-FAITH war and brutality against different confession of faith (Because of RELIGION!) and people, not able to see this dilemma are “parochial” in thinking.. and only see their inner circle of “group’s belief”. I can see here in this blog most of them are supporters of Bro E…
Japan, Korea, China MANAGE themselves not to make religion mixed with politics,
that is ONE of the reason WHY they are good in managing population…and the Catholic CHURCH (even some evangelicals) is so blind on this..
You can look at our community.. there are many manifestations that WE ARE OVER POPULATED..and that over populace has many BAD outcome..it will take many pages of a bond paper just to make a list of it…
Japan and Korea preserve their religious beliefs, their shrines and temples, they also have festivities…they are still doing this for their heritage and the government allows it as a guarantee of religious freedom.I observed most of these religious practitioners do not “fanatically evoke” their religious belief in the state affairs. (that is a good example of “separation of church and state”)
Japan and Korea has a character that is embedded in the core of their culture…and that is DISCIPLINE and a SENSE OF HONOR..we can see this every time if there is a government official caught doing corrupt practices, THEY ARE MAKING PUBLIC APOLOGY in television. (but of course CORRUPTION is a universal human problem, every culture in one way or another has it, and ours is so TALAMAK)
I am sorry…i cannot agree with you invoking religious (your equation at your last sentence) claims mixed in politics
“Literature not Scripture sustain the mind”… that is what i believed..read histories from renowned scholarly published book…watch more BBC and CNN and their DOCUMENTARIES (marami nyang pirated sa QUIAPO) and you will know and realize the REALITY in the global community.
Jose Rizal will be disappointed if he will see us today…
During his time, we are ruled by a government controlled by priest and Friar and are also preaching in their magnificent cathedral “peace and love” but they are also “brutal and murderous” if you question their DIVINE authority.
Today “and yet again” there is a new breed of religious group…it is a hybrid of protestantism, i will admit that they are bright and very much APOLOGETIC…very much equipped. They steal truths in science and make it their own. (I think you know what “group” i am talking about.
Sigh…..we as a country have a long way to go…..
Quote of the day:
Sa una natawa ako, tapos sumakit ang ulo ko, tapos nalungkot ako para sa Pilipinas.
it will take a published books just to explain why religion and politics should not be mixed…some of them was uttered here in my post as a part of this forum..and i have notice that a few here are wisely explained by other blogger…(mr wawam is one of them)
One of the Book (to name a few) “History of Britain” by Simon Schama tells story of England’s violent past when religion and politics mixed…
Wag na tayong lumayo…the two books of our very own Jose Rizal mirrored our history during Spanish ocupation (some catholic school still banned studying this book)
and so much more…
Hindi pa kasama yung books about history of religions (to name a few again), their humble beginnings from “martyrs to inquisitors” (Christianity the History by Paul Johnson)
Religious fundamentalist in this forum keep uttering “OPEN YOUR ONES”!
and i also say “No!!! YOU OPEN YOUR EYES”!
Sean;I perceived you are an atheist or a secularist.The phrase “literature not scripture sustain the mind” whom did you get these?
Sir,
it is a part of a paragraph that differentiates between literally believing in scriptures (Koran, Book of Mormons, Tanach A Jewish bible, and Christian Bible)and good literature…here it is;
“the serious ETHICAL DILEMMAS are better handled by Shakespeare, and Tolstoy and Schiller and Dostoevsky and George Eliot etc. etc. (wag nating kalimutan our very own JOSE RIZAL!)than the “mythical” morality tales of the holy books. Literature not scripture , sustain the mind and–since there is no other metaphor–also the soul (hope i get it right..)
goodness gracious…i forgot the publication…i am getting old haha!
I hope that the supporters of brother Eddie refrain from proselytizing,(may outline pa ng sermon sa ibang treads ng forum) preaching, kahit yung mga political adviser nya sasabihin din yun…. believe me its not got for brother eddie’s candidacy..hindi nila alam it is “very much detrimental”
BRO EDDIE IS A FORMER ATHEIST…RIGHT?
so,your an atheist.So you believe on yourself and what you know.Wala kang diyos ,pero ang diyos mo ay sarili mo.
here we go again…you are very wrong…(lalo na sa last sentence mo)
same old mantra a fundamentalist evangelicals like you keep uttering on us,…
its simple common sense advice for you and your coreligionist for bro Eddie’s candidacy…i have read all the comments in each thread concerning your candidate…you and your friends are giving a wrong impression to others, and for me..your are promoting only your religion THAT IS WHAT I SEE
a PROPHECY is a PROPHECY! (lalo na kung may details)
kahit may dagadag bawas pa, samahan pa ng hello garci, kahit MADALAS nyong sinasabi na NABABAYARAN ang survey ng SWS at PULSE ASIA..kahit mag mudmud pa ng pera itong mayaman na si villar! “mananalo dapat si bro eddie 2004 palang”!!!
your PROPHECY is clear di ba?
sya nga pala i like the poem of mr
jundp posted January 24, 2010 at 1:22 am
i admire poems, paintings(Sistine Chapel · Ceiling) , architectural design(lalo na yung nasa loob ng intramuros)…
Sean,meron ka bang nakasakit sa yo ng malalim at ito ay napakasakit na di mo kayang kalimutan at ito ay palaging paulit -ulit na bumabalik?
Please remember mahal ka ng Diyos.Naghihintay Siya sa pagbabalik mo.
thanks for that…we are all not immune to such human problems…
i have a dear friend who is a song leader here in a evangelical church near my home..i have to finance her medical expenses in a psychiatrist at Medical City. she suffered from depression just like you mentioned…
good news she is now recovered and continue song leading..and her husband is thankful for that.
To Sean and who read this blog;
I want to share something that you might learn something.I’m a born again Christian.I was a catholic before for decades.I was a sinner and living in sin.After I accept Lord Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior,I repented all of what I’ve done.As ask God to cleanse me and remove the sin nature ingrained in my soul and the spirits who tormenting me to return to my sinful nature.A pastor ministered to me and the Holy Spirit delivered me .During the deliverance,the spirits of lust of the eyes .lust of the flesh and the pride of life was cast out from my body in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.For the first time of my life,the burdens within me was lifted.I felt like a teenager.After that,I am able to follow Jesus Christ ‘s Words without guilt and torments from evil spirits.I no longer felt or experience the sin nature coming back to me.Now,I live without the burden of sins.I’m free.Please ask your friend who is a song leader to meet the pastors of JCTD in Plaridel ,Bulacan.Depression is cause by the evil spirits.The doorways are fear,worries and unbelief.God bless you all.
Sir Estipona,
is the pastors and leaders of the evangelical church i mentioned in which your candidate has FOUNDED and you are promoting, is “not” handling it well?
are you telling me that yours are better that theirs? WOW! its a classic manifestation of Christianity’s weakness..that is why so have so many sect and denomination (and still very much growing!)
i am always hearing the buzz words in inter-christian faith.. “YOURS ARE BETTER THAN MINE”, our doctrines are better than yours, G-d has favored us because we do the right ‘instructions in the “holy book” and so on and on..
i can respect your “patotoo”.. but i cannot accept the way Christianity’s attitude for the last thousands of years “towards each other” and their victims during the “inquisitions” and doing trials against the “reputable man of science” (Galileo).
ps.
as i said magaling na yung friend ko..
Mr.Sean;
I see your unbelief.But what I experienced and transformation ,you can’t take it away from me.What I am sharing to you is the demonstration of the Power of God.
Are you living in sin and still committing the same sins again and again? Are you tormented with your past mistakes and iniquities?Come to Lord Jesus Christ,He is the only Deliverer.
It is written”the wages of sin is death,but the gift of God through Jesus Christ is eternal life.”Also it is written” You will die with your sins.”
For the scientist,In the bible,Job 26:7″He stretch out the north over the empty place and hanged the earth from nothing”.In this verse,God tells us the earth was held and suspended by gravity and this was written 4000 years ago.For an update in science,they changed the big bang theory to inflationary theory.This theory is in line with the verse” He stretch the heavens with His mighty arm”.The observation of Dr.Hubble that the universe is expanding with incredible speed.In this inflationary theory ,the creation theory was also being validated because that expansion of the universe started from one singular point.Beyond that point is nothing.But how something came from nothing?It must be created.If created ,who is the creator?To check out this try to review Discovery Science programs.
Also in the bible,the law of thermodynamics was stated and existing before it was discovered in the 19th century.It is written” the heavens will worn out like garments”,this is second law of entropy,the degradation of quality of energy and matter.The first laws is stated in the Genesis,states energy and matter will not be destroyed nor created.These verses is written in book of psalms which was 3000 yrs ago.
I feel you are very angry.May nakasakit ba sayo?I’m sorry if I write something that offended you.
Nakakita ka na ba na taong sinasaniban at malakas pa sa sampung tao?Dito sa church(which Im belong), lahat na dinadala dito ay gumagaling at nakalalaya sa pangalan ni Lord Jesus Christ at kapangyarihan ng Holy Spirit.lahat na sakit at karamdaman ay galing sa demonyo at ibang spirits.
Since you said before”reason and free inquiry”,puntahan mo at makita mo sa Plaridel.Bulacan JCTD o sa JA1 sa batangas.Walang entrance fee at lahat ay welcome ,pati sa deliverance at inner healing ay libre.Isa lang ang hihilingin ng Diyos sayo ay ang iyong pananampalataya at pagsisisi sa kasalanan mo.
In Mark 16:15-18″ He said to them”Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.Whoever believes and baptized will be saved,but whoever does not believe will be condemned.And these signs will accompany those who believe:In My Name they will drive out demons;they will speak in new tongues,they will pick up snakes with their hands;and when they drink poison,it will not hurt them at all;they will place their hands on sick people,and they will get well”(NIV)
God bless you always
…your sort of testimony was and always being uttered by those people who are NEW in their CHOSEN FAITH. Even Muslim converts which i interviewed tells the SAME TUNE. Even those who involved in choosing Buddhism and Hindu proclaims bliss during meditation..and so on and on.. This is; as most of honest Psychiatrist will said, that it is a PLACEBO effect mixed in colored water…and a Psychiatrist will also tell that there is a THIN line between “religious belief” and INSANITY.
Most of the fundamentalist christian PLAGIARIZED and hijack truths in science just to promote his or her “irrational” faith base claims.
Most of you fundamentalist believed that our planet and the UNIVERSE it self, is less than 10,000 years old. If that claim is true you “will only see few stars” in a moonlit sky…IT WILL TAKE MILLIONS OF YEARS for a distant star with a distance of MILLION of LIGHT-YEARS away to reach ITS LIGHT in our planet. Its a sheer and simple common sense lang yan. (and again, Christian “apologist” already have an answer on this one)
…i am sorry…but it seems you are ONLY promoting your church like an UNCTUOUS merchant advertising a “hocus pocus” (albularyo effect) merchandise..
You said” reason and free inquiry.”You have not done any verification yet but you make a hasty comments.Please verify my statements with research and facts and asked credible sources . Maybe your comments will be credible to other bloggers.
I ask you to verify first don’t comment hastily.
wow..
maybe we should start a blog for religious beliefs?
its a good idea..but it “can” be pointless and will be an endless discussion…
we humans are “pattern seeking mammals” we tend to give meanings on what we see, what we feel, and the occurrences in our environment..that is what RELIGION tries to explain and interpret then apply SUPERSTITIOUS belief without any SCIENTIFIC basis…
in my opinion, its comfortable just to discuss this present situation of each candidate’s attributes. “i cant help discussing” the downside of religiosity because most of the people here are just PROSELYTIZING instead of tackling issues in the blog’s thread.
the country’s problems and where we are now was not brought about by men and women who were not religious. that was never the issue. neither will the problems of the country be solved by electing the most religious.
i agree
Bro. eddie will be endorsed by Iglesia Ni Cristo and Ang Dating Daan. Just wait for the formal announcement.
Do you have an “empirical data” of this possible endorsement? or its just another LEAP of FAITH? I think Iglesia Ni Cristo has more effectual reason to support a candidate. They support Marcos a DICTATOR, they support Erap which all of you agree an IMMORAL, they supported Gloria that even all of us agree MOST CORRUPT compared with the two…although in this fact and “i know that you agree” that they support these people even though their attributes is contradictory to the morals of Christianity. Most likely a LEVERAGE of its own interest is most logical reason why in the first place they choose the three. How can you be sure that they will choose bro eddie? Can bro eddie’s candidacy provide that leverage?
Maybe mr. sorriano’s founded religion Ang Dating Daan has the possibility…
Lets try to be logical and sensible, base on “empirical data”
…its the same claim last 2004, but it never came to pass..
I think KARIS postings last January 5, 2010 at 4:28 pm AND January 5, 2010 at 4:37 pm provides a valid and ordered data. It is more sensible.
well..well…isa lang tanging kasagutan dyan…alam n kc ng mga kalaban n malakas n ang hatak ni bro eddie dhil konti n lng ang mga taong tanga n boboto s mga gahaman n pulitiko, kaya hindi nila cguro inimbitahan c bro eddie kc takot cla n lalo syang m-expose s kbila ng konting ads nya..uulitin ko halos laht ng sektor ng ating bansa IGLESIA, BORN AGAIN, BAPTIST, KATOLIKO, DATING DAAN, maging anga mga lahing muslim ay s bro eddie ang susuportahan..kaya sabihin mo nga..anu ang laban nga mga ADS Exposure nila kay bro eddi
This is what you have said:
..uulitin ko halos laht ng sektor ng ating bansa IGLESIA, BORN AGAIN, BAPTIST, KATOLIKO, DATING DAAN, maging anga mga lahing muslim ay s bro eddie ang susuportahan..
it seems its only an echo and a same claims that i was heard last 2004…(not including the Prophetic claims)
Sir, namulat na kase ang mga Pilpino na hindi na sila basta-basta lang boboto ngayon. Naghahanap na kase tayo ng totong pagbabago dahil baka lalong malubog ang ating bansa sa kahirapan dahil lang sa mga tradisyonal na politiko.
mukhang mas mabait ka..kumpara kay mr J
tama ka, naghahanap talaga ng pagbabago ang mga kababayan natin..
ok sana si bro eddie kung hindi lang nagmumukhang RELIGION and dating nya, dahil sa ibang suporter nya dito…
gusto kong maging pranka sayo mr JASON..mas gusto ko pa noong sya ay aktibista pa kumpara ngayon..
to sean inform q lng po kau c bro.eddie po ay nag resign na as pastor, isa na lng po xang ordinary person ngaun.karamihan ng tao ay nag rereact na nagmumukang religious ang dating nya.Syempre hndi maaalis ng tao un eh nging pator kc xa.Mas mganda un eh my takot xa sa Diyos at dhil nga my takot xa, matatakot xang gumawa ng korapsyon dhil my diyos sya.
Ang alam ko yung Ang Dating Daan ay hindi namumuwersa ng mga myembro nila para iboto ng solid ang isang kandidato at ung Iglesia ni Cristo ni Manalo ay solid silang lahat kay Noynoy (porket kasi xa ang nangunguna sa survey).
nabasa ko lahat ng comments ninyo. nakapanhinayang naman yong comments na si bro eddie kulilat o si bro eddie wlang magawa. nasubokan na ninyo isang matalinong presidente , isang artistang presidente. babaeng presidente. ano ang nangyari sa atin ng sila ay naging presidente ng ating bansa???? hello poh sa inyo why you not try to vote him na isang taong may totoong takot sa Dios o may malasakit sa ating bansa alam poh ninyo sa panahong ito huwag ninyong sayangin ang inyong boto. kailangan ito ng inyong mga anak. huwag ninyong idaan sa mga dibate na wla namang kabuluhan. dak_dak kayo ng dak-dak hindi naman iyan ang solusyon sa kahirapan ng ating bansa…. oras na para ibangon ang ating minamahal na bansa. sama sama tayo para kay bro eddie villanueva……
eddie ako n!
wag po taung maniwala sa mga survey ng media..karamihan po kc jan kng cnu nagbayad sa media un ang lead sa survey.tanong q lng po sa mga kumokontra ky bro.eddie sa mga survey po ba na un e nasurvey kau.dba hnd naman po.kya pano q maniniwala na kulelat xa eh hndi naman aq natanong in fact kpag nagtatanong aq sa mga tao.mas mraming pro bro.eddie. my prophecy po sa ating mnamahal na bansa kinakailangan na po nteng magkaron ng righteous leadership kundi pwede ng mabura ang ating bansa sa mapa dhil sa korapsyon. I think i believe na c Bro.EDDIE na ang karapatdapat. Last chance na 2 ng ating bansa kya kng my pagmamahal po tau d2 pag aralan po nateng mabuti.Cno pa ang pag-asa ng ating bansa EDDIE TAYO!!!
nung una less evil lang ang criteria sa pagboto…ngayon….righteous dapat….kung si bro eddie hindi iboboto ng tao….sino pa ba ang sa tingin nyo na righteous sa mga presidentiables? wala na..lahat sila traditional politician..kailangan natin yung may pagkatakot sa DIYOS….EDDIE AKO lang!!!!!!!
Sino pa ang may malasakit at pag ibig sa bansa?
EDDIE AKO!
ndi lng nman exposure ang kelangan… and ndi totoo ang mga false.. este polls.. EDDIE prin.. ntayin nlng ang resulta ng election..
surely EDDIE VILLANUEVA will win.. because ndi man xa, God will move for him..